Wednesday, 8 February 2012

Thought experiment : A boerestaat

So I got around to thinking what a "Boerstaat" would be like.

Now let's assume as a premise the following.

1) There is nothing in principle wrong with a boerstaat along the human right of self determination. On condition we allow this priveledge consistantly. But I don't want to get into the ramifications such as the then validity of a pakistani statehood in the U.K etc. But the Boers have been here for many generations and if they want their own bit of land we should allow them to have it in my opinion.

2) This piece of land would be somewhere including the once "boer republics" where most people who strictly consisder themselves boers preside. It should be in proportion to their representation of the population in size. Roughly 1-5 % of the country depending on people's ownb definition of themselves and how many choose to live there. The land itself would have to be compensated for by that population and the freedoms and rights of anyone who they don't want to live in that area can not be hindered without that compensation.

So basically before we started we aready talking a pipe dream. I don't see the boers having anything close to the money to compensate this area of land to take it with leaving all parties satisfied.

But as a thought experiment let's imagine the sustainability of it.

By definition we would assume this independant state would reply on agriculture as the cornerstone of their economy. Boer Translates to farmer after all. But how would they possibly hope to compete without the cheap labour  and where will that cheap labour come from if they only allow boers to live and govern there ?  They'd have to either accept that having your own nature means you're going to have to enforce a group of whites to become an underclass or labours living on tiny wages to keep you competitive. What social ramifications will this have ? Or you would have to compensate by allowing some voluntary non whites to fill this role. But you would have to give them equal democratic rights, as your argument of the right to self determination falls apart from an ethical standpoint if you don't.

So already three major problems.

1) A poor economy and little ability to compete with the already infastructure and industrial modern country of South Africa that surrounds you. You will become a mass net importer of goods from South Africa (like the rest of subsuharan africa)and have very little ability to compete.
2) You're all white policy is unsustainable for the above reason.
3) And if you try pursue it you will start class warfare and fracture your cultural bonds along that criteria. In fighting between the have and have nots is envitable.

Some more things you might want to think about. Your daughters are going to want to shop in the malls of sandton, and go dancing in the strobe lights non verkrampte clubs of JHB. The only way to stop this would to stop westernisation. That would mean a black out of western media in general and broadscope censorship. This would frustrate your youth and disatisfy their hapiness in their boerestaat even greater. I imagine many would find themselves leaving for the big lights in no time.

Furtermore you'd be relient on South Africa for so many things. You'd be land locked and have to pay S.A for water and electricity. Something I'm pretty sure they're going to make sure costs you quite a bit.


I could go on forever, but I'd like to hear how you plan to overcome these hurdles first.

14 comments:

Dachshund said...

But then you must not forget about the vast, irreconcilable differences between the true Boers and the white Afrikaner traitors who sold out South Africa! Dan Roodt has 1,500 sheeple followers but at a push not more than 1% of them will forgo the conveniences of Pretoria or Parkhurst to go and live in some godforsaken little boer republic on their own. Don't forget that Roodt likes the finer things in life himself such as are to be found in exclusive places like Dainfern Estate. So there will be less truly interested people than you can count on your fingers and your toes.

Anonymous said...

fuck the boerestaat dude, we just got the ANC to boot out the last possible threat to our economic strangelhold on SA! Viva white capitalism, viva ANC! Fuck the poor!

The Rooster said...

Anon did you even read the S.O.T.N speach? If half of what get's promised gets done it's as if i myself wrote the fucking plans. It's beyond fucking brilliant !


In a world where increasingly the ease of movement and easing of retrictions etc = trade what more could you ask in terms of free makret capatalism ? Also as far as job creation the plans are massive to boost manufacturing and rooselevdtesque in creating opportunityt for the poor. the focus was all jobs not fucking hand outs.

I'm no A.n.c supporter. I'm never voted for them and registered with the D.a. But these plans kick 7 kinds of fucking ass. Let's just make sure they od it now and we'll see GDP growth above 7%. Rooster....you heard it here first.

Dachshund said...

Now that Whitney Houston and Fred Rundle have both snuffed it maybe they'll be singing this song to each other in the afterlife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUh0Z0ilTjs&feature=related

The Rooster said...

But then you must not forget about the vast, irreconcilable differences between the true Boers and the white Afrikaner traitors who sold out South Africa! Dan Roodt has 1,500 sheeple followers but at a push not more than 1% of them will forgo the conveniences of Pretoria or Parkhurst to go and live in some godforsaken little boer republic on their own. Don't forget that Roodt likes the finer things in life himself such as are to be found in exclusive places like Dainfern Estate. So there will be less truly interested people than you can count on your fingers and your toes.

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As proven with the failed "orania". The kids can't wait to leave to move to the vibrant s.a cities. I mean one can only take so much sokkie, inbreeding and brandy before things get tiresome to the angsty youngsters.

The Rooster said...

Now that Whitney Houston and Fred Rundle have both snuffed it maybe they'll be singing this song to each other in the afterlife.

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I don't speak badly about the dead. It's tasteless and I would not like people to do it about me. Hence I try treat people well while I am still kicking around and missing the bucket.

The Rooster said...

Well the recently dead. Fuck Stalin, Hitler etc obviously.

Dachshund said...

Death is going to happen to all of us, that's why it's so fucking hilarious. You don't have to make the dead out to be better than they really were.

The Rooster said...

Call me a fan of chivarly, but any man , no matter how different we feel about things, faces the same mortality as we do. And that straight away gives us something in common and something to be humble and respectful about. So for me I don't piss on the graves of the recently departed.

Even with the death threats I have gotten (and there are plenty) I have never wished death on anyone. It's not that I'm soft cock and can't deal with reality....fucks knows I looked into the face of death everyday more than anyone my age. But I do sort of believe in good manners believe it or not. Some widow and children and family out there are grieving and let's not piss on them.

Dachshund said...

Hey I hear Ron Paul's kicked the bucket as well?

The Rooster said...

meh....doubt it. Paul is immortal.

Dachshund said...

Do you still get stalked as well? Phone calls from a lone frostbitten Saffer draped in an old vierkleur huddled next to a railway siding in north England at three am in the morning going, "And aye-aye-aye-aye-aye will always stalk yoo-oo-oo-oo, I will always stalk yooooooooooooo."

The Rooster said...

I seldomly read my hotmail. It's been uber spammed by ill intention. You'd think people had better to do than threaten death on someone who has faced that motherfucker face to face for 3 years. Nothing anyone can do can scare me....I'm mcfuckingfearless after all. Oh you have some bb friends with guns and are coming to get me.....fuck off ! I'm as scared as a polar bear in an aquarium full of sammon.

Oh you can threaten my family and friends etc but you will not live long afterwards. I WILL act with massive vengeance if anyone even tries that. Don't fuck with a wounded beast.

Ha ha....ok got a bit carried away there. Seriously leave my family and friends alone. Come after me if you have issues. email me and we'll set up a meeting. 5 minutes later we'll be sharing a beer I guarantee it. If not have a go at beating me up or whatever. I won'ty cry to the police if you get lucky and split a lip or two. But leave my family out of it.

Dachshund said...

I won't reveal anything about people who are related to me. Lot of whack heads out there without a mission in life other than to ruin someone else's. One of the downsides of the internet.

I hear that someone is kicking a certain stalker out of her life for good and the stalker got upset and had the source of that rumour removed. Must be some truth in it then. Bit of a change from posing for the Chorley Guardian all happy and united, having survived the hand grenade lobbing, rocket launching mobs of Joburg west.