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At face value, it really does seem as if murder is down by 1.8% (not 3% as Rooster claims) - a laughable and negligible “decrease” which in real terms mean that instead of 51.6 murders a day the previous year, murders are now “only” 50.68 per day. The released figures for 2007-2008 is 18 487 murders. For 2008-2009 it is 18 148 – 339 less murders. To get deliriously happy over 339 less murders (such as Rooster in his insane desperation does) is patently absurd and ridiculous
Yes, it might be ridiculous to get happy about a small fall in murder rates. But you know what's really ridiculous ? To get angry about it. Now that's just fucking insane ! Any good news relating to a reduction in violent crime should be met with applause. A step in the right direction. And as I pointed out violent crime has been steadily decreasing the last decade to the extent it's almost 50% lower than it's highest levels.
Anyway we all know you don't really care about violent crime as it 32 out of 33 times happens to non white people. You have hijacked this issue to push your anti black agenda. So get off the fucking soap box.
Here’s the scary and interesting bit: the only reason our national murder rate shows a very slight decline is because the (White & Coloured DA ruled) Western Cape enjoyed a whopping 24% decrease in murders. The Eastern Cape murder rate is down 7.5% and those two provinces allowed the regime spin doctors to steal the thunder and make the lower murder rate the centrepiece of their spin
Now I really am dancing. I live in one of these provinces. I often wonder my people living in (relatively speaking) more dangerous Guateng emmigrate rather than just moving to the coast. My neighbours did that. The wife was 100% certain she wanted to leave. They came here and now they laugh at how silly they were. Lucky for them I always think. Right now they could be living in shitty ass England. Shudder.
While we’re myth busting, let me also point out that in 1998 we overtook Columbia as the world’s most murderous country outside a war zone, and in fact, even MORE murderous than actual war zones – far more people die in SA every day than in Iraq & Afghanistan COMBINED! Yet our friend Koos / Rooster claims that murder and violent crime has decreased year on year since 1994…if this was true, we would have been way behind Columbia and other turd world shit holes. This excerpt from a statement made by Dr Johan Burger of the Institute for Safety & Security: (source here)
Well firstly our murder rate is down a hell of a lot since 1998. You see ? This is the point. As many physicists and cosmologists have theorised time might not indeed be linear but for the sake of argument let's use a conventional understanding of time. It's now 2009. So in the time that has passed the situation in South Africa has lead there to be far less murders than 1998. If you're a person who doesnt like murder and thinks it's naughty then this is called "a big improvement". When things get better the normal reaction for a person described as "non sociopathic" is to be cheerful. So what's wrong with you lot ?
Secondly did you just say our murder rate is is higher than Iraq and Afghanistan combined ???????
I know you're milking the Iraq is at war angle. Forget Afghanistan. Let's just look at war time Iraq.....and no REAL war time , post the taking of Bagdad.
Interesting because this article by a very conservative American media giant says it has a murder rate of 76 per 100 000. Now I admit I only got like 97% of high school maths so I'm not infallable , but that seems higher than 37 per 100 000. Oh and that's just Bagdad and just homicide, Militiary related deaths are not included. Wow, someone fucked up.
Of course this site counts the toll on civilians due to war so you can throw them into the mix too.
Oh and you'll notice the same article in fox news has Columbia at 39 per 100 000. By the way buy me a ticket to Columbia now and I'll go hapilly for a year. I'll be neck deep in latin lovelies in minutes. I wouldn't feel worried for a nano second about getting murdered. Even though that's more than 3 times the risk I run living here as a white South African (12 per 100 000) it's still a minutely small chance. Ha ha ha ...you lot. Hype, hype, hype , shout , shout , shout about something that the chances of it happening are so tiny. It's just silly. I often giggle to myself thinking of the gauls and going on about the sky falling on their heads.
Burger said South Africa’s murder rate of 37 per 100 000 people could not compare with that in most developed countries, where it was less than two per 100 000.
“Columbia, which just a few years ago had almost double our murder rate, has a murder rate that is lower than our murder rate at the moment.”
Well if that's true then it's testiment to Columbia doing a great job. Would anyone deny that ? No. Hey I know another country that just a few years had almost double our murder rate. Can you guess it's name ? That's right ! South Africa !
Bwahahahahaha. Sorry you walked face first into that one. Logic fails you guys a lot.
In South Africa, approximately 1 400 children are murdered every year – yet another sub-category of the main category in which both SA is a shameful world leader.
If true that's awful. But I'd suggest and if you're being honest you'd agree the highest percentage of these could be described more accurately as "teenagers". We all know there is teenage gansterism and dysfunction. But of those who can be described as children in the way "children" plays out in our minds, probably a tiny prcent of that number, a tiny , tiny proportion of those murders are white children.
Rooster crows about the “serious crimes” category being down by 2.8%.. There are 5 753 (five thousand seven hundred and fifty three) serious crime incidents EVERY SINGLE DAY. As if this is something to be happy about.
Oh you lot love your semantics. "Serious crimes" ...you make it sound so.....hmmm.....serious ! Come on now , define serious crimes. Because if there's 5700 a day then there are 2 million and 80 thousand of them a year. So other than rape , murder etc what is a serious crime ? How the hell do you come to this huge number without including in your definition of "serious" crimes things like petty theft ? You guys are total bullshitters and I catch you out every single time.
In addition to being the most murderous society on earth, we have the dubious distinction of having been the world’s rape capital for several years already. Rape (disguised under the fuzzy category of “sex crimes” so as to hide the true nature of SA’s # 1 sport – child rape to cure HIV/AIDS) is up a massive 10%.
Nope. We're number 9 of countries that record stats. Most of the third world does not. If you've ever been to a truly third world country you would understand they don't have the ability to provide sanitation never the less freaking record crime stats. Again a bald faced lie.
And again semantics ! You use sex crimes to mean "rape" when rape is one of many sex crimes some of which are far more petty. You're trying to imply all sex crimes are rape. And even if you say it 1 million times over it will never be true that baby rape is anything but freakishly rare in South Africa. This boring fucking spiel about blacks believe it can cure aids is an old chestnut used by WHO and UNAIDs to try justify their inflated "aids rate" statistics when they did not concur with scientific fact (ie : Yes , the aids rate in South Africa is GROSSLY exageratted and sex alone can not justify their high projections.) To tell people you believe blacks are interested in raping their babies says a lot more about you than it does about black people. So say it as often as you like , but you are just going to come across as a kook.
The Racial angle
I can go on and on and on, but I think you get the picture – a country which has for the past 15 years been sliding headlong into complete anarchy. The slide is irreversible and as these crime stats (cooked, massaged and manipulated as they are) attest, is gaining momentum.
I don't understand your logic. On the one hand you use the stats to back up your argument. The next you re calling them false ? Which is it ? And why would they make most of the stats worse if they were able to cook the books ? And if cooking the books how did they manage to get the entire police force (whites included...yes there are still MANY whites in the police) , the insurance companies, the actuaries and statisticians , hospitals , doctors and people who issue death certificates etc to particpate ? Let me guess....we never landed on the moon either ?
Also sliding headlong in anarchy for the past 15 years ? Let's look at fact. In the past 15 years :
The Economy has grown massively.
Violent Crime is down massively .
10 Million homeless people now have homes with running water and electricity.
Unemployment is much lower.
Much more children attend school.
Millions of people enjoy free state sponsored healthcare.
At face value, it really does seem as if murder is down by 1.8% (not 3% as Rooster claims) - a laughable and negligible “decrease” which in real terms mean that instead of 51.6 murders a day the previous year, murders are now “only” 50.68 per day. The released figures for 2007-2008 is 18 487 murders. For 2008-2009 it is 18 148 – 339 less murders. To get deliriously happy over 339 less murders (such as Rooster in his insane desperation does) is patently absurd and ridiculous
Yes, it might be ridiculous to get happy about a small fall in murder rates. But you know what's really ridiculous ? To get angry about it. Now that's just fucking insane ! Any good news relating to a reduction in violent crime should be met with applause. A step in the right direction. And as I pointed out violent crime has been steadily decreasing the last decade to the extent it's almost 50% lower than it's highest levels.
Anyway we all know you don't really care about violent crime as it 32 out of 33 times happens to non white people. You have hijacked this issue to push your anti black agenda. So get off the fucking soap box.
Here’s the scary and interesting bit: the only reason our national murder rate shows a very slight decline is because the (White & Coloured DA ruled) Western Cape enjoyed a whopping 24% decrease in murders. The Eastern Cape murder rate is down 7.5% and those two provinces allowed the regime spin doctors to steal the thunder and make the lower murder rate the centrepiece of their spin
Now I really am dancing. I live in one of these provinces. I often wonder my people living in (relatively speaking) more dangerous Guateng emmigrate rather than just moving to the coast. My neighbours did that. The wife was 100% certain she wanted to leave. They came here and now they laugh at how silly they were. Lucky for them I always think. Right now they could be living in shitty ass England. Shudder.
While we’re myth busting, let me also point out that in 1998 we overtook Columbia as the world’s most murderous country outside a war zone, and in fact, even MORE murderous than actual war zones – far more people die in SA every day than in Iraq & Afghanistan COMBINED! Yet our friend Koos / Rooster claims that murder and violent crime has decreased year on year since 1994…if this was true, we would have been way behind Columbia and other turd world shit holes. This excerpt from a statement made by Dr Johan Burger of the Institute for Safety & Security: (source here)
Well firstly our murder rate is down a hell of a lot since 1998. You see ? This is the point. As many physicists and cosmologists have theorised time might not indeed be linear but for the sake of argument let's use a conventional understanding of time. It's now 2009. So in the time that has passed the situation in South Africa has lead there to be far less murders than 1998. If you're a person who doesnt like murder and thinks it's naughty then this is called "a big improvement". When things get better the normal reaction for a person described as "non sociopathic" is to be cheerful. So what's wrong with you lot ?
Secondly did you just say our murder rate is is higher than Iraq and Afghanistan combined ???????
I know you're milking the Iraq is at war angle. Forget Afghanistan. Let's just look at war time Iraq.....and no REAL war time , post the taking of Bagdad.
Interesting because this article by a very conservative American media giant says it has a murder rate of 76 per 100 000. Now I admit I only got like 97% of high school maths so I'm not infallable , but that seems higher than 37 per 100 000. Oh and that's just Bagdad and just homicide, Militiary related deaths are not included. Wow, someone fucked up.
Of course this site counts the toll on civilians due to war so you can throw them into the mix too.
Oh and you'll notice the same article in fox news has Columbia at 39 per 100 000. By the way buy me a ticket to Columbia now and I'll go hapilly for a year. I'll be neck deep in latin lovelies in minutes. I wouldn't feel worried for a nano second about getting murdered. Even though that's more than 3 times the risk I run living here as a white South African (12 per 100 000) it's still a minutely small chance. Ha ha ha ...you lot. Hype, hype, hype , shout , shout , shout about something that the chances of it happening are so tiny. It's just silly. I often giggle to myself thinking of the gauls and going on about the sky falling on their heads.
Burger said South Africa’s murder rate of 37 per 100 000 people could not compare with that in most developed countries, where it was less than two per 100 000.
“Columbia, which just a few years ago had almost double our murder rate, has a murder rate that is lower than our murder rate at the moment.”
Well if that's true then it's testiment to Columbia doing a great job. Would anyone deny that ? No. Hey I know another country that just a few years had almost double our murder rate. Can you guess it's name ? That's right ! South Africa !
Bwahahahahaha. Sorry you walked face first into that one. Logic fails you guys a lot.
In South Africa, approximately 1 400 children are murdered every year – yet another sub-category of the main category in which both SA is a shameful world leader.
If true that's awful. But I'd suggest and if you're being honest you'd agree the highest percentage of these could be described more accurately as "teenagers". We all know there is teenage gansterism and dysfunction. But of those who can be described as children in the way "children" plays out in our minds, probably a tiny prcent of that number, a tiny , tiny proportion of those murders are white children.
Rooster crows about the “serious crimes” category being down by 2.8%.. There are 5 753 (five thousand seven hundred and fifty three) serious crime incidents EVERY SINGLE DAY. As if this is something to be happy about.
Oh you lot love your semantics. "Serious crimes" ...you make it sound so.....hmmm.....serious ! Come on now , define serious crimes. Because if there's 5700 a day then there are 2 million and 80 thousand of them a year. So other than rape , murder etc what is a serious crime ? How the hell do you come to this huge number without including in your definition of "serious" crimes things like petty theft ? You guys are total bullshitters and I catch you out every single time.
In addition to being the most murderous society on earth, we have the dubious distinction of having been the world’s rape capital for several years already. Rape (disguised under the fuzzy category of “sex crimes” so as to hide the true nature of SA’s # 1 sport – child rape to cure HIV/AIDS) is up a massive 10%.
Nope. We're number 9 of countries that record stats. Most of the third world does not. If you've ever been to a truly third world country you would understand they don't have the ability to provide sanitation never the less freaking record crime stats. Again a bald faced lie.
And again semantics ! You use sex crimes to mean "rape" when rape is one of many sex crimes some of which are far more petty. You're trying to imply all sex crimes are rape. And even if you say it 1 million times over it will never be true that baby rape is anything but freakishly rare in South Africa. This boring fucking spiel about blacks believe it can cure aids is an old chestnut used by WHO and UNAIDs to try justify their inflated "aids rate" statistics when they did not concur with scientific fact (ie : Yes , the aids rate in South Africa is GROSSLY exageratted and sex alone can not justify their high projections.) To tell people you believe blacks are interested in raping their babies says a lot more about you than it does about black people. So say it as often as you like , but you are just going to come across as a kook.
The Racial angle
I can go on and on and on, but I think you get the picture – a country which has for the past 15 years been sliding headlong into complete anarchy. The slide is irreversible and as these crime stats (cooked, massaged and manipulated as they are) attest, is gaining momentum.
I don't understand your logic. On the one hand you use the stats to back up your argument. The next you re calling them false ? Which is it ? And why would they make most of the stats worse if they were able to cook the books ? And if cooking the books how did they manage to get the entire police force (whites included...yes there are still MANY whites in the police) , the insurance companies, the actuaries and statisticians , hospitals , doctors and people who issue death certificates etc to particpate ? Let me guess....we never landed on the moon either ?
Also sliding headlong in anarchy for the past 15 years ? Let's look at fact. In the past 15 years :
The Economy has grown massively.
Violent Crime is down massively .
10 Million homeless people now have homes with running water and electricity.
Unemployment is much lower.
Much more children attend school.
Millions of people enjoy free state sponsored healthcare.
Whites still make up 70% of corporate positions and own most of the land and new wealth.
Shall I go on ? If we're sliding down anything it's an amusement park ride and having a pretty good time. Keep the ride going I say.
Unless one has access to real facts, such as those held by life & short term insurance companies, vehicle tracking & private security companies, there is only circumstantial evidence to rely on when guessing about the racial nature of these crimes. While not all blacks are criminals, it is an undisputed fact that the overwhelmingly vast majority of all rapists, murderers, hijackers, house robbers and criminals are black.
Agreed. But with almost 100% correlation the vast majority of those people are also cronically poor. If this was a scientific research project the race of the people would be circumstantial.
To conclude, I invite you - if you’re brave enough - to take these facts & figures and project them into the chilling, nightmarish future – 3 years, 5 years and even 10 years from now. South Africa is the undisputedly the land of death, suffering and misery. Can you imagine what things will be like then? That is to say, if a full-blown Uhuru-style civil war along the lines of Rwanda doesn’t erupt…
I invite you to get your head out of your arse. Everything is improving. In 3 , 5, 10 years South Africa will be even better, just as it is better now than 3,5,10 years ago. All the data and facts project a fantastic future for this country. You're deluded to argue against that especially consider how sub saharan africa is now massively starting to grow their economies (Angola : 25%). Ha ha ha....he said uhuru ! Immediete disqualification from the group called "sane and rational" !
If you’re brave enough to still reside in SA, then enjoy what’s left of your “Heritage Day” dear reader. We have much to celebrate, don’t we? Get the hell out, or move to the Western Cape - NOW.
Woohooo ! Raise those property prices baby ! Heritage day was marvelous thanks. It was 28 degrees and not a cloud in the sky. I braaid some steaks and wors with my family and put down a coupla beers while watching the Prote-yeahs! kick some Kiwi butt in the cricket. Come to think of it that's just like any work free day in this beautful country.
Hmmmm....can you guys smell that wors ? Aaaaah. South Africa. You got to love it !
As always boys....PWNED !
Don't get too homesick now.
Shall I go on ? If we're sliding down anything it's an amusement park ride and having a pretty good time. Keep the ride going I say.
Unless one has access to real facts, such as those held by life & short term insurance companies, vehicle tracking & private security companies, there is only circumstantial evidence to rely on when guessing about the racial nature of these crimes. While not all blacks are criminals, it is an undisputed fact that the overwhelmingly vast majority of all rapists, murderers, hijackers, house robbers and criminals are black.
Agreed. But with almost 100% correlation the vast majority of those people are also cronically poor. If this was a scientific research project the race of the people would be circumstantial.
To conclude, I invite you - if you’re brave enough - to take these facts & figures and project them into the chilling, nightmarish future – 3 years, 5 years and even 10 years from now. South Africa is the undisputedly the land of death, suffering and misery. Can you imagine what things will be like then? That is to say, if a full-blown Uhuru-style civil war along the lines of Rwanda doesn’t erupt…
I invite you to get your head out of your arse. Everything is improving. In 3 , 5, 10 years South Africa will be even better, just as it is better now than 3,5,10 years ago. All the data and facts project a fantastic future for this country. You're deluded to argue against that especially consider how sub saharan africa is now massively starting to grow their economies (Angola : 25%). Ha ha ha....he said uhuru ! Immediete disqualification from the group called "sane and rational" !
If you’re brave enough to still reside in SA, then enjoy what’s left of your “Heritage Day” dear reader. We have much to celebrate, don’t we? Get the hell out, or move to the Western Cape - NOW.
Woohooo ! Raise those property prices baby ! Heritage day was marvelous thanks. It was 28 degrees and not a cloud in the sky. I braaid some steaks and wors with my family and put down a coupla beers while watching the Prote-yeahs! kick some Kiwi butt in the cricket. Come to think of it that's just like any work free day in this beautful country.
Hmmmm....can you guys smell that wors ? Aaaaah. South Africa. You got to love it !
As always boys....PWNED !
Don't get too homesick now.
16 comments:
good come back rooster
good to see you are someone who thinks for themselfs and does your homework
this is what someone on za sucks has to say i have been looking at yours and thers
There are some other glaring anomalies. Violent crime rates, when analysed from 1994, have shown a dramatic downward correction since 2001, which is implausible given that policing quality has declined markedly over the period, and the population has increased (even without including the millions of illegals). Moreover, note how assaults common and GBH didn’t show any increase in 2008, despite the xenophobic attacks. Also, you would think attempted murder would be highly correlated with murder. Not so in South Africa. Finally, the murder rates are significantly lower than suggested by the Medical Research Council data, somewhere in the order of 30%.
Yeah but what you not taking into account is that since 2001 the economy grew consistantly up until the recession.This is a massively sucessful way to reduce crime. Not to mention people getting social grants , the government recording record funding. Money , no matter how nadly spend gives an economy fluidity and trickles down to all eventually.
dude, you have some serious issues! Your ranting is logically incongruous and your comparative arguments are laughable.
Do you really believe in the crap that you write?
you need help, sweetheart!
tis funny how on za sucks they always try and drag you thru the coals always with the personal attacks
tis funny how on za sucks they always try and drag you thru the coals always with the personal attacks
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Not always as funny as you think. I've had commercial websites hacked to the extent they are now defunct. I've had death threat for me and my mother. Ask dark coffee about his experience of their hilarity. They had his mothers adress and handed it over to some skin heads in the stats who said they would kill her. Some of these guys are moderate and bitter people...but others are real nasty pieces of work.
dude, you have some serious issues! Your ranting is logically incongruous and your comparative arguments are laughable.
Do you really believe in the crap that you write?
you need help, sweetheart!
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Meh. I've the voice of calm and rationality on this issue. That's the very whole point. I'm the "anti rant" if anything.
tis funny how on za sucks they always try and drag you thru the coals always with the personal attacks
sorry rooster i didnt know that
i thought they were just like tuning u kak
sorry to hear that
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lol...text book example of an ad hom attack. You must be covered in straw after giving the strawman such a bashing.
Why are you getting so worked up for a silly death threat? Aren't you the one that always plays it down? I mean, crime is just a perception, isn't it? And since, as you often like to put it, crime on whites is just a fraction of the overall crime figures, where is the problem? Us whites are not affected as badly as the poor blacks are... so why worry? You are white aren't you? The possibility of white on white murderous crimes are so very slim if not existant. So where is the concern, Koos? Cheer up, mate! Look at the bright side: statistcs are on your side! Murder is down! And if you are really that worried your black bruthas can come to the rescue: the best police in the world, bru! See?? Don't worry be happy, sweetheart!!!!
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Who is getting worked up ? You blowhards couldn't scare a fly.
Ay rooster, about the 32 out of 33 murders that are commited on non-whites stat, 89% of the population is black, so if you work it out, 1 in 3.63 murders are on non-whites. Again, get your facts straight
Ay rooster, about the 32 out of 33 murders that are commited on non-whites stat, 89% of the population is black, so if you work it out, 1 in 3.63 murders are on non-whites. Again, get your facts straight
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Fail. Johny Steinberg did a study and got all the stats and came to this conclusion. 32 out of 33 murders happen to black people. The white murder rate is 12 per 100 000. Abotu double the united states but still nothing to be too worried about.
"Some of these guys are moderate and bitter people...but others are real nasty pieces of work."
The really nasty pieces of work belong to the Boeremag who excelled themselves with the 2002 Soweto bombings which also blew up a mosque. They also tried to blow up the Buddhist temple at Bronkhorstspruit and have no qualms about blowing up coloureds in shopping centres in the Western Cape.
They are quite well organised considering their numbers and are active within various newspapers including Beeld and the Citizen.
takem from http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/
“Take this year’s announcement of the crime stats: they are about 18 months old,’ she points out.
She notes that the ANC thus also broke ex-minister Charles Nqakula’s solemn vow to publish these important statistics “every six months”
i did read the story and i dont see her point if the stats r old and murder is still down so what its still good news
takem from http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/
“Take this year’s announcement of the crime stats: they are about 18 months old,’ she points out.
She notes that the ANC thus also broke ex-minister Charles Nqakula’s solemn vow to publish these important statistics “every six months”
i did read the story and i dont see her point if the stats r old and murder is still down so what its still good news
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If you take anything that senile crone andrea says seriously then you're insane. I have copies of emails of even S.A.S authors writing to her to tell her how bullshit her "stats" are. This is no a controversial statement "She is a bllshitter."
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