Monday, 13 July 2009

Monday stat slap down

In the style of childhood chappie papers...

Did you know...

South Africa has less crimes per Capita than three of the countries we emmigrate to the most ?

New Zealand , England and The United States ?

We do. At that's even if you're looking at a study done between 1998-2000....our HIGHEST years of crime in our history. (Since then violent crime is down 44% by the way).

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita


Bwahahahahahaha


In other news. I was reading some comments made on a guardian newspaper article written by some silly women who had allowed herself to get scaremongered from wanting to come to South Africa. She clams to be "terrified" by what she has read and seems convinced if she came for the world cup she would be murdered.

Now she's obviously a bit of a foolish little nutter, and most of the hundreds of comments that followed her article mocked and ridiculed her for her sensationalistic b#llshit. But there were a few comments like this one which caught my attention :


agree. I travel to a lot of so called dangerous countries, and lived in Cambodia for 6 years in the 90s. I never worry about safety issues. But I've just returned from working in Namibia and met a lot of South Africans. They told me the situation is going downhill very quickly. People now sleep with pistols under their pillows. When driving at night, nobody pays attention to stop lights, you just drive straight through red lights etc. Sounds very grim.


Clearly this guy has met some pretty lame South Africans who have spun this guy some pretty dismal yarn about the place. Now to anyone who actually lives in the country, you'd dismiss such rubbish...sleeping with guns under your pillow ? Nobody stopping at stop lights at night ?

If that were true then South Africa would be a very dangerous place of course...crossing a 4 way stop at night for one...or a bad dream.....could lead to horrific accidents. But of course it's absolute rubbish and I doubt there is on single South African who practices either thing or actually believes this.

Here's the quirky thing to me : If South Africa is really so bad...why do the expats come up with such blatant imaginative pathalogical constant lies ? If it's so terrible , then why not just tell it how it is ? Why the silly made up enecdotes etc ?

I'll tell you why. Their agenda is not to tell it how it is. Their agenda is to help themselves sleep at night. They need to build South Africa into some sort of buffoonish like pampemime of itself just to validate their decision to leave.

They don't really believe any of this of course and if you were to really just confront them on it of course they would back peddle a matter of miles .."Well no , it's not really that bad...but you know we have the highest murder rate in the world ...blah blach blach" ...and they'd go with the lies (we have the 14th highest murder rate of countries that actually report statistics...that doesn't include 80% of the developing world. And 1 out of 33 of these happens to white people like them.)

So it's really shame they have to be so sefish they send their time making the lives of other South Africans so much worse, just so they can live out their little silly game of playing "Refugee", to make life seem bareable in their new country. The irony of all of this is that the need to do this...to convince themselves leaving was he right decision is always fuelled by the most agressive homesickness. By the fact they loved life in South Africa...how easy, afordable and exciting it is. The wonderful quality of life, the weather , the carefree lifestyle ! The priveledged position in society, the commraderie , the unique world outlook. Now that they've left...generally not for any good reason other than they allowed other expats with the same agenda to scare them into doing so wth bullshit tales about greener pastures, they join the bandwagon out of spite.

The result : They chase away tourists and foriegn investment and make South Africa a worse place edging closer and closer to heir self fulfilling prophecy. Except of course despite their predictions South African cruises allong with increasing wealth and safety...driving them hysterical with anger to the point they can only make it through the week if they can sift through the internet and read about a particularly gruesome murder and wank about it.

The whole dynamic is screwed up and dysfuntional. I suggest there are a lot of expats out there who need to either just come back to South Africa instead of forcing yourself to find reasons not to....or just leave South Africa the hell alone and carry on with your lives. Spare others the ridiculous "sleep with guns under you pillow"drivel which you know yourself to be a pathetic lie and let us get on with enjoying the lives we spent here without you trying to sabotage it.

Or as I always put it: If you're not part of the future.....get out of the f#cking way.

Note : Of the hundreds of comment in response to the silly ladies article, the great majority were Brits who have been to , lived in , or still live in South Africa (there are more Brits who live in South Africa han vica versa...and 20 000 new brit expats move here each year). And of those Brits I did not read a single comment that didn't violently disagree with the article. Most advised people to come over as South Africa was perfectly safe and a wonderful country to lve in if one kept away from the bad areas. A few expat South African chimed in with the usual rubbish you can expect from them, but the gross majority of South African who commented mocked the article and it's scaremongering as strongly as anyone.


The wonderful upside.

There's come a point now that South Africa is in the spotlight because of the world cup. And across the internet I've noticed a trend starting. The british newspapers write something negative about South Africa. A few South African expats jump for the jugular ...but then....the backlash. And who does the backlash come from ? British people who live in South Africa, of travel here frequently and are sick of the rubbish.The Brits outnumber the silly saffers "flight muppets" (great term by the way...I started the muppets and someone added the flight ...together I propose that become the official word for the expat wetmats)....by a great proportion as expats brits read brit papers just like saffer flight muppets troll SA papers looking for bad news. The result is that finally these horribly boring flight muppets are being exposed for the liars and alarmists they are, and about time too.

I loved how someone put it :

Crime IMHO is the subject that most WHITE South Africans bang on about, especially the ones that ran way post '94 and want to believe that the place has / is will go to the dogs..

Crime is used as a dog whistle for people that feel that they can't just come out and say they preferred it back in the day when blacks knew their place and all was rosy in the garden
I've traveled to each and every corner of SA, never had the slightest problem, been to Hillbrow after midnight, no worries..Melville..lovely place..


I'm not saying crime isn't an issue but it's a big issue when you live in Alex and much less so when you live elsewhere...

I've been burgled in Dublin 4 times, once in London, never in Jozi...

I'm sick and tired of white flight muppets moaning and Europeans believing the hype, if you go to SA, get out into the real world and enjoy it, you'll meet incredibly friendly people and have an amazing time, you'll be a better person if you do...

Just as a matter of interest...do you read my site ? If you do , maybe you'd like to point out on that page that using murder stats from the year 2000, when since then they've come down 44% is extremely dishonest.


And lastly , here is another gem responsing to one of the flight muppets :

You're clearly an ex Saffa, thriving on negative news to validate your decision to leave the country. I have seen enough of the likes of you to recognise the slobbering ranting and raving. And if you see a sliver of positive news, you will obscenely twist and distort it to become negative, until it soothes the burning ache in your heart for haviing left this paradise.

So whilst you roam the blogs looking for an opportunity to vent your anger and pent up rage: today we had a braai in the glorious highveld (winter) sunshine, gargled Castle lager, basked in the glory of a Rugby world cup championship, content in the afterglow of victory against the Lions, hosted a successful Confed Cup, ran a glorious IPL, are building massive infrastructure for 2010, and working hard in unity across all races to welcome the world next year. And we shared the unique South African sense of humour, laughing until our stomachs hurt.

Of course all this positive news about South Africans of all hues making a go of it will deepen your sense of loss and pain at having left; so bang the keyboard with all your might, spouting your doomsday cliches. Good riddance to bad rubbish like you

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

South Africa has less crimes per Capita than three of the countries we emmigrate to the most ?

New Zealand , England and The United States ?


i dont beleive that nz has 30 murders a year

i know people from nz who live in auckland and said even that number is to high/

doest sa have 50 murders a day ?

around 18 thousand a year?

i dont know i could be wrong

The Rooster said...

Crimes , not murders you idiot. Yes , S.A has 50 murders a day. Or 38/100 000. White South Africans however have 12 per 100 000 as only 1 in 33 murders happens to a white person. It's not racist to point that out, it's just that the people I debunk are white expats who like to make out as if it's them who crime affects mostly , when in fact that's far from the real story.

South Afric has the 14th highest per capita murder rate of countries that present statistics. Keep in mind though that a huge proportion of developing countries don't even have proper governments...not to mention the ability to report statistics. Crime generally = poverty. Just we're the wierd exception where we have serious poverty , but the first world infrastructure to measure things like murder. The result is we are falsely inflated to the 14th highest murder rate.

Anonymous said...

well i am from durbs but live in oz
now and when i visit my cousins in joburg
we dont stop at red robots at night we jsut roll on thru( my cousin tells me not to stop)
i mean joburg is great but tons of crime there last time iwas there he had a massive shoot out outsaide his house we also heard alot of gunshots at night he lives in edenglen or edenvale iam not sure . but during the day we go bike riding gor for walks life is normal

i mean we dont stop at red robots chance of carjacking slim crims dont lurk at every robot

as for her article it was over done
look sa has held a lions tour super 14 finals tri nations every year and a never a horror story


i have been car jacked myself its not fun and i would say for sure sa has a crime problem worse than most places but we also have alot of poor people

and illegal immigrants it will take some time to fix
but i have seen the government is getting hardcore on places like hillbrow trying to fix the crime

after the carjacking its been very hard to return to sa

very hard i dont know if i ever can return
knowing someone tried to kill me for a car? a flopping pice of crap toyota

that doesnt happen in oz or nz where i now live

not just that but when i was walking thru the streets in durbs alot of blacks were shouting get out go back to europe sa is now ours white boy so i dont feel safe anymore the blacks have made its clear its there country

and of coure seeing the street kids digging thru dustbins in durbs and sniffing glue on the beach front broke my heart

peace

The Rooster said...

Oh yeah...other than murder and rape , other crimes in south africa are very nominally or actualy low.

In the context of Tourist crime...Tourists only reported 1.5% of the time of having experience some form of crime (normally petty)while 99% reported they would happily feel safe coming back.

Tourist murders are extremely rare and freakish in South Africa and 5 a year would be a lot. ...out of nearly 10 milion tourists. Tourist murders always make the news as majo stories here and abroad but they're so rare even the likes of S.A.S have never even dared suggest we have a high tourist murder rate. Which is something considering that site thinks our children drug pets to rape them routinelly.

Australia has less petty crime by 99% going there saying they reported no crime(0.5 % less) , but a far higher tourist murder rate.

I know I'm spouting a lot withot referencing my stats...but if you're cynical lurk through my blog...my archive page... and I've done all the referencing for my stats in previous articles.

Anonymous said...

it's just that the people I debunk are white expats who like to make out as if it's them who crime affects mostly , when in fact that's far from the real story.


no your right rooster the blacks in sa go thru some horrid kak
like that blakc guy who had his eyes cout out for his cell phone

whites r pretty safe compared to blacks

the townships r horrid i feel the anc should be doing better to protect the crime in the townships

Anonymous said...

Australia has less petty crime by 99% going there saying they reported no crime(0.5 % less) , but a far higher tourist murder rate.

no i agree with u rooster tourists
come here to oz thinking its safe

wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!! they get there arses handed to them

some sailor were jsut attacked and
stabeed here in perth for nothing
and they were from the states

The Rooster said...

well i am from durbs but live in oz
now and when i visit my cousins in joburg
we dont stop at red robots at night we jsut roll on thru( my cousin tells me not to stop)
i mean joburg is great but tons of crime there last time iwas there he had a massive shoot out outsaide his house we also heard alot of gunshots at night he lives in edenglen or edenvale iam not sure . but during the day we go bike riding gor for walks life is normal

i mean we dont stop at red robots chance of

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You're cousin is a douchebag , with all due respect. It's a reflection of his reckless driving , more than it is of South Africa. You're cousin makes te country far more dangerous than hijackers.

Ps : Bresk down the 18 000 murders and you will see only 500 a year are related to housebreaking , hijacking and armed robbery. Most of our murders are drunken knife fighting in shebeens in the township...not orginised money motivated crimes.

Anonymous said...

and again your right ona roll today

za sucks never reports tourists
in danger
they only say it will happen but tis just propaganda

The Rooster said...

i have been car jacked myself its not fun and i would say for sure sa has a crime problem worse than most places but we also have alot of poor people


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Yeah, me too. Mind you it was in Manila, not South Africa. No , it wasn't nice.

Where I live in South Africa the thought of being hijacked never crossed my mind. It seems absurd to even think about...never happened to anyone I know either.

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but i have seen the government is getting hardcore on places like hillbrow trying to fix the crime

after the carjacking its been very hard to return to sa

very hard i dont know if i ever can return
knowing someone tried to kill me for a car? a flopping pice of crap toyota


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That seems extreme. I would go back to the philippines anytime. Lovely country...I was silly to drive around in the crappy parts of manilla that's all.

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not just that but when i was walking thru the streets in durbs alot of blacks were shouting get out go back to europe sa is now ours white boy so i dont feel safe anymore the blacks have made its clear its there country


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Oh , I see. You almost sounded sincere up to there , now I realise you're a liar. Lived here 30 odd years , understand the local lingo and no one has ever told me to "go back to europe".All I've ever got from locals is friendly greetings and smiles. Totally implausible that this really happened to you. Clever attempt at sliding in some cheap sniping shots ammongst some apparently positive stuff. You took it just a tad too far and have been caught sort. But hey...nice try , bullshitter.

The Rooster said...

and again your right ona roll today

za sucks never reports tourists
in danger
they only say it will happen but tis just propaganda

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Yup constant promised by them about the "blood bath" before every sporting event. They assure the world that it's suicide to come to South Africa. Then come the event. Nothing happens , everyone comes has an awesome time and goes home safe and sound.

S.A.S Fail.

Anonymous said...

Clever attempt at sliding in some cheap sniping shots ammongst some apparently positive stuff. You took it just a tad too far and have been caught sort. But hey...nice try , bullshitter.


no its one 100 percent true
my cousin and also had coulored in a pub walk up to us take there belts off wrpa them on there knuckles and say we hate you boers and a fight almost broke out

you cant accuse me of stuff u dont know

i have heard go back to where ucame from more than once np reason to lie
it happened havent been caught short because it has happened

Anonymous said...

i only know one toursist who had a nightmare in sa

she had jsut arrived in joburg airport pulled out of the aiport
in a taxi and was like 5 mins from joburg airport and saw a carjacking and the woman who was taken out was shot dead
she now suffer night mares

buteveryone else i know has a blast in sa

The Rooster said...

A friendly warning. I'm not going to litter my site with pretend "oh south africa is mostly ok ..*insert horrible enecdote here*" rubbish.

I've long since caught on to that tactic and I'm just not going to have it anymore. Express our real opinion openly without agenda and I will post it up here. Don't try any of this machiovelian bullshit with me.

To the last two comments I didn't let through. You're stories read nothing like anything any sout african I have ever met has ever reported experincing even once. Yet you claim masses of these types of things have happened to you personally ? I can onlt think this reflects on you..rather than south africa.

The Rooster said...

i only know one toursist who had a nightmare in sa

she had jsut arrived in joburg airport pulled out of the aiport
in a taxi and was like 5 mins from joburg airport and saw a carjacking and the woman who was taken out was shot dead
she now suffer night mares

buteveryone else i know has a blast in sa

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I call bullshit. That's an extremel rare hings to happen. She witnessed one of less than a 100hijacking related murders that happen in south africa in a year. The odds of this are extremely smal and unlikely. If you had this story to tell for real there is no way you wuld trivialise it. Typical attempt to pretend to be saying one thing while actually be saying another. Future rubbish like this will not be posted.

RoosterSucks said...

Rooster crowed:

Oh yeah...other than murder and rape , other crimes in south africa are very nominally or actualy low.

++++++++
Thanks for pointing that out - I feel so much better now....

Anonymous said...

As always the truth lies somewhere in between.

Stats are stats and reality is something else. I think you know the truth about those stats. From what I have seen you are a bit of a critical thinker so I won't say anymore about that.

Here is the crux of the matter.
Have you every had dealings with the SAP. It's a joke but nobody's laughing. Nobody has any confidence in our government and at the moment an investment in a future in South Africa is more of a gamble than some people are willing to take. Africa has such a poor track record for government that you would thing that any government serious about leading this country into the next decade would be bending over backwards with reassurances.

All these issues were inevitable, predictable and foreseeable and maybe for people like you and I it's what keeps us sharp and alive but really it's far from an ideal game plan. I would like to see a power shift very soon. I'm not sure how much longer I can accept the stupidity any longer. Sure Mbeki may have been a stand up guy but so what. He was just as lost in the sea of stupidity as I feel right now.
...And what can I do to change it? Sweet fuck all. 10 million dumb cunts rock up at election day with the same mentality ingrained in their heads as they had 18 years ago with no consideration, ambition, creativity or thought of where we should be in 20 years time.
I'm stuck on African time and it's wearing me down. Fuck, we could do anything we put our minds to if we could just shake this monkey off our backs.

Viking said...

Why do you refer to South Africans living abroad as flight muppets, but British expats living in SA as, well, "expats"?
What is it you think the latter are 'running away' from?

The Rooster said...

I call south african who live abroad AND constantly spread lies and distortions about the counry "muppets" because they're a big hilarious pamtomime on idiots whoare puppets for right winged nazi agenda's often without even knowing it.

South African Expats who just speak rationally and fairly about south africa are just expats too.

Anonymous said...

I´ve just discovered this blog, and I must say I´m not impressed. Firstly, the name sucks. I´m white and I´m offended by the title, Kill Whitey. What are you thinking about? Even if you don´t mean it literally, it´s insulting.
Secondly, why do you feel the need to answer every post with a comment on whether or not you believe the poster. Seems really odd?
I sympathize with your cause but you are doing more harm than good. Also, you come across as only semi literate. Your spelling is atrocious. You are harming the image of liberal the world over. Sorry, I just had to point that out.

The Rooster said...

I´ve just discovered this blog, and I must say I´m not impressed. Firstly, the name sucks. I´m white and I´m offended by the title, Kill Whitey. What are you thinking about? Even if you don´t mean it literally, it´s insulting.
Secondly, why do you feel the need to answer every post with a comment on whether or not you believe the poster. Seems really odd?
I sympathize with your cause but you are doing more harm than good. Also, you come across as only semi literate. Your spelling is atrocious. You are harming the image of liberal the world over. Sorry, I just had to point that out.
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Fucking anal retentive hippie ....the worst kind. I'm not going to spend my precious time proof reading and spell checking every stupid thing I write because your mom was too hard on you as a child.

And I'm not a liberal...I hate liberals almost as much as conservatives.

Anonymous said...

you talk no sense, logic or fact.

so you accept crime - good for you.

Whitey makes you oh so jealous you retard hence your choice of blog name. Garbage on you evil creature.

Anonymous said...

"you talk no sense, logic or fact.
so you accept crime - good for you.
Whitey makes you oh so jealous you retard hence your choice of blog name. Garbage on you evil creature".

You just have to laugh don't you?

The Rooster, why don't you create a post with the best and worst comment of the day/week. I like a bit of competition and it might encourage some forward thinking.