In my last post I proved without a doubt the validity of my suggestion that the murder rate for whites is around 12/100 000.
Now let's look at this number and consider the following question ( which is so incredibly stupid it belongs in a ripleys museum) : Are white South Africans the victims of genocide ?
Let's define genecide in laymans terms : An agenda in place to kill a group of people considered to be of a certain "race".
There are always fights about how many whities are in South Africa. the figure ranges from 4 to 7. But let's use wikipedias figure of 4.8 million and play safe.
If it's true that black people are out to commit genocide on us then it must also be true that black people are extremely bad at killing. Or at least not really as highly motivated as some would suggest. Because at this rate, assuming the white population doesn't grow, they'd have killed us off in the year 10 008.
A mere 8 000 years.
8000 by the way is also the odds of you getting murdered. 1 in 8000 White South Africans is murdered each year. Try ring that number through your mind. Would you stop doing anything because there was an 8000 to 1 chance of something going wrong ? If you answered yes, then sell your car. Because even being generous the chances are around 10 times better than that you'll die in it this year.
On another note you'd need to know 8000 white people personally to have a chance of knowing 1 that was murdered. If you are such a person then please appreciate how freakishly rare and unique your situation is and stop insisting others have a good chance of being like you.
Also if you've moved your family to most of South America, Africa, South East Asia or Russia to escape crime : congratulations. You just put their lives in more danger than ever.
What's that I hear ? A pin drop ? One things for sure with you lot it's probably not a f#cking penny. Get this in your thick skulls : there is no such thing as white genocide in this country !
Anyone that tells you this is the case is showing the late stage symptoms of stupidity.
(the maths : 12 per 100 000 = 600 white murders a year....8000 * 600 = 4 800 000 )
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My apologies; I’ve misled readers about my native South Africa. I called it the most violent place on earth outside a war zone. I was wrong. BBC World recently—and reluctantly—disclosed that South Africa jostles with Iraq and Colombia for the title of most violent country in the world, war zones included.
In a short segment, correspondent John Simpson reported that in South Africa, on average, 50 people are murdered every day (population: 47 million), 3 times that number are raped; and 300 are violently attacked and robbed daily. And these are the official, likely filtered, figures. They say nothing about the seldom-reported, hundreds of muggings carried out in broad daylight and captured by security cameras. According to Robert McCafferty of the United Christian Action, moreover, the South African Medical Research Council tallies 89 daily deaths; Interpol’s statistics are double those released by the police—a bent and brutal outfit whose chief has been linked to the mafia but has yet to be suspended
Mbeki’s ministers share his oil-and-water relationship to the truth. One of them told itvNEWS that when adjusted for population, levels of crime in the Unites States approximate those of South Africa. Lies. Going by the underreported police numbers, the murder rate in South Africa is 10 times worse than the US. According to the MRC figures, it’s 14 times worse.
Journalists for "Carte Blanche," the South African equivalent of "20/20," conducted a six-month investigation into what has become known as farm murders, or "plaasmoorde" in Afrikaans. The short documentary opens with a funeral, Elsie Swart’s. Elsie was one of three farmers killed in the span of only seven days. She died after being “severely tortured, burned with an electric iron, beaten, and strangled to death.”
The victims of this ongoing onslaught, we are told, are invariably elderly, law-abiding, god-fearing whites, murdered in cold blood, in ways that beggar belief. For the edification of racism spotters in the West, "Carte Blanche" ought to have pointed out that their assailants are always black.
Typically, the heathens will attack on Sundays. On returning from church, the farmer is ambushed. Those too feeble to attend Sunday service are frequently tortured and killed when the rest are worshiping. In one crime scene, Bibles belonging to the slain had been splayed across their mangled bodies. In another, an “old man’s hand rests on the arm of his wife of many years.” She raped; he, in all likelihood, made to watch. Finally, with their throats slit, they died side by side.
Beatrice Freitas has survived two farm attacks. Her equanimity belies the brutality she has endured. She and her husband immigrated to South Africa from Madeira 40 years ago. They built a thriving nursery near the Mozambiquean border. It supplied the entire region with beautiful plants. Some people build; others destroy. Beatrice tells her story as she drifts through the stately cycads surrounding the deserted homestead. There’s an ephemeral quality about her.
When the four men attacked her, Beatrice says her mind “disappeared.” She and her permanently disabled husband, José, were tied up while the home was ransacked. When the brutes were through, they wanted to know where she kept the iron. They then took her to the laundry room, where two of them raped her, coated her in oil, and applied the iron. They alternated iron with boot. When they were through, 25 percent of Beatrice’s body was covered in third-degree burns. They suffocated her with a towel, and left her for dead, but she survived. She says the Lord saved her.
No one was ever arrested—not then, and not after the couple was attacked three years later. This time Jose died “in a hail of bullets.” Arrests and convictions are rare. "Carte Blanche" tells of Dan Lansberg, shot dead in broad daylight. Members of his courageous farming community caught the culprits, but they “escaped” from the local police cells. As I’ve explained before, the newly configured South African police is a corrupt, illiterate, and ill-trained force, “riven by feuds, fetishes, and factional loyalties.” The South African justice system has collapsed, confirms Professor Neels Moolman, a criminologist. In democratic South Africa, a person has over a 90 percent chance of getting away with murder. Or as Moolman puts it, pursuing “a criminal career without fearing the consequences.”
Sky News sent its correspondent to the northern province of South Africa, where the viewers are introduced to Herman Dejager. (CNN’s Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper and his pal Angelina Jolie were nowhere in sight.) Before retiring every night, Herman prepares to fight to the death to protect what’s his. He checks his bulletproof vest, loads the shotgun, and drapes ammunition rounds on the nightstand.
Herman’s father died in his arms, shot in the face by intruders. Kaalie Botha’s parents were not so lucky: “You can’t kill an animal like they killed my mom and father. You can’t believe it.” Kaalie’s 71-year-old father’s Achilles tendons had been severed so he couldn’t flee. He was then hacked in the back until he died, his body dumped in the bush. His wife, Joey, had her head bashed in by a brick wielded with such force, the skull “cracked like an egg.”
Dr. Gregory H. Stanton heads Genocide Watch. He says the slaughter of 2000 Boers is genocide. (One wonders why "Carte Blanche" drastically underreported the number of murdered Boers, pegging it at 1400 all told, when back in January of 2006, Genocide Watch reported a total of 1820 murders.) The rates at which the farmers are being eliminated, the torture and dehumanization involved—all point to systematic extermination.
“Genocide is always organized, usually by the state,” Stanton has written on Genocide Watch’s website. Indeed, according to Sky News, the farmers believe “these attacks are an orchestrated, government sanctioned attempt to purge South Africa of white land owners, as has already happened in Zimbabwe.” Consequently, Zimbabwe, once the breadbasket of Africa, is now its dust bowl. Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe’s Marxist President, is greatly admired by Thabo Mbeki, South Africa’s strongman, and head of the African National Congress.
That certainly would explain why the ANC plans to dismantle the Commando System, a private Afrikaner militia that has existed since the 1770s, and is the only defense at the farmers’ disposal. More damning—and contrary to the pro-forma denials issued by the ANC’s oleaginous officials—The Daily Mail reported, in February 2006, that the government is dead-set-on forcibly seizing the land of thousands of farmers. By the year 2014, a third of the Boers’ property will have been given to blacks.
In democratic South Africa, dispossession is nine-tenths of the
My apologies; I’ve misled readers about my native South Africa. I called it the most violent place on earth outside a war zone. I was wrong. BBC World recently—and reluctantly—disclosed that South Africa jostles with Iraq and Colombia for the title of most violent country in the world, war zones included.
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You fail at the first hurdle. South Africa , if you don't count africa and most of souyth east asia who don't report any stats is at worst the ninth most violent country in the world. I linked to the facts in my myth quick fix...please adjust or risk looking like a total fucking fool.
hey roster
i think u said muti murders only
very small in sa only 12 a year right a very small number
but here is wat news 24 is saying
so i thought u would like to read this
Kampala - Children are being increasingly decapitated and their bodies cut up in ritual sacrifices, the Ugandan government said on Thursday.
"Child sacrifice has confronted the nation with its ferocity, barbarity as well as frequency," Ethics and Integrity Minister James Nsaba Buturo told reporters.
"It has become a national danger."
The country has been flooded with reports in recent weeks of murdered children with grisly pictures of corpses, often decapitated and their body parts, mostly genitals, cut off.
In one case, a prominent and wealthy Kampala property developer was arrested early last week following reports that he ordered the murder of a juvenile whose decapitated body was pictured on the front pages of the city's tabloids.
Two witchdoctors, a husband and wife who had earlier been arrested for the murder of the 12-year old boy, had told police that the businessman had ordered the death of the child so that he could bury his head under the building he was constructing.
The man was charged with murder, but denied the charges.
According to police records, four children aged between 9-12 years were beheaded in 2007 and had their tongues, private parts and hearts cut out.
Witchdoctors
Since the beginning of 2008, six children have been murdered in a ritual manner, but only three people are being held on murder charges, including one woman.
"The crime of child sacrifice has three parties all of who are liable for severe punishment: Witchdoctors who are responsible for encouraging the crime, the killers who slaughter victims and the individuals who seek services of the killers," Nsaba Buturo said.
"The witchdoctors deserve special condemnation," he added.
The minister said that government is planning tougher legislation by changing the law with special provisions to target the ritual murderers.
"The law is weak. Witch doctors should be punished severely and possibly given life imprisonments," he said.
i know its not south africa tis uganda but i willsend u find bout afica
To the guy who keeps posting comments about Zimbabwe. What the hell has that got to do with South Africa ? You;'re comparing the poorest coun try in africa to the ritchest. The most autocratic to the most democratic. Do you realise how stupid that is ?
Rooster, stick to your political propaganda.
You seem to be a bit better at that than you are at Statistics, Mathematics and plain & simple logic deduction.
I nearly pissed myself the other day at you mentioning SAPS statistics - typical liberal marxist drivel. Let's just think about this logically. You can't trust the average policeman to do the job he is actually paid for, but, according to you, you can actually trust the statistics originating from the same criminal, corrupt, communist black scum
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Another muppet ! We're chock full today !
Listen bub. firstly the South African polie is made up of people of all races. In fact the Afrikaans represenation is significantly big, especially in the top jobs. hundreds of thousands of white, coloured and indian police officers would have to be in on the conspiracy to cover up crime. So would all the hospitals , docotors , insurance companies , actuaries , people whon make death certificaes etc ..
The idea that murder is being "covered up" is both paranoid and totally deluded. Get a fucking life. Do you believe in big foot by any chance ?
hey rooster
how is south africas prep for the world cup coming
are we going to be ready?
last i heard banana banana were ranked 80th in the world awefull for an afrcan nation
we are the envy of the world cause we are full of natural talent
most sporting teams areound the world are full of south africans
like the wallabies the aussie olypic team the kiwi net ball team the english rugby team the french rugby team and so on
the reason
i posted stuff on zim
is because why havent the anc
put pressure on mugage to leave his post yet him and mbeki seem to be best frineds
and they say zim is full of illness
and if sick people cross the border
coul cause alot of problems
In a short segment, correspondent John Simpson reported that in South Africa, on average, 50 people are murdered every day (population: 47 million), 3 times that number are raped; and 300 are violently attacked and robbed daily. And these are the official, likely filtered, figures. They say nothing about the seldom-reported, hundreds of muggings carried out in broad daylight and
are those numbers true or lies bout sa cause if true thats a huge amount of crime 50 murders a day is no good nz has 50 a year
the proteas are here
to play cricket i cant wait
i have never see say play live
before cept for the rugby
i will be there having the flag high loud and proud
ek bly n saffa
doesnt matter where i live
hey rooster
how is south africas prep for the world cup coming
are we going to be ready?
last i heard banana banana were ranked 80th in the world awefull for an afrcan nation
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As far as astadiums and etc we're well on course. The team is rubbish , but recently won 4 in a row including against 14th ranked senegal. It doesn't matter how the team goes the whole idea is to market south africa as a tourist destination and to build the brand as a country which is promising for investment.
every angle of our modern cities and beautiful sights and nice people is worth it's weight in gold. Of course it's all going to be fucked up by the sp[in the racist whoite media is going to try and pull by focusing on the view robberies etc that will happen and do happen everywhere. Fucking idiots. If they can for a few months not be so sensationalistic then it'll be great. The western media won't dare criticise south africa and are likely to show the positive stuff only...so only we can fuck this up for ourselves.
the proteas are here
to play cricket i cant wait
i have never see say play live
before cept for the rugby
i will be there having the flag high loud and proud
ek bly n saffa
doesnt matter where i live
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That's the way boet. Expats like you are not on my shit list in the slighest...get out there and wave the lag and stop your fellow saffies talking rubbish about our country and chasing away much needed tourists and investments. That's what we need to uplift this society ...not people speaking negative and defeatist bullshit.
A shout out to all the proud, positive saffies expats out there !
the reason
i posted stuff on zim
is because why havent the anc
put pressure on mugage to leave his post yet him and mbeki seem to be best frineds
and they say zim is full of illness
and if sick people cross the border
coul cause alot of problems
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This is a media myth. They're not fucking best friends. Fuck Robert Mugabi and i'm sure Thabo mbeki feels the same. He's being diplomatic...and if anythibng that;s his fucking job.
In a short segment, correspondent John Simpson reported that in South Africa, on average, 50 people are murdered every day (population: 47 million), 3 times that number are raped; and 300 are violently attacked and robbed daily. And these are the official, likely filtered, figures. They say nothing about the seldom-reported, hundreds of muggings carried out in broad daylight and
are those numbers true or lies bout sa cause if true thats a huge amount of crime 50 murders a day is no good nz has 50 a year
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They're true. I have never denied this number. I use it for every statistic I have made. Around 1.4 white people are murdered a day in South Africa.. So you've got around a 4 million to 1 chance of getting murdered in South Africa.
If you feel this is a reason to not live in south africa , then you must never fucking fly. It's twice as dangerous.
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heres a positve story
its good the government is visting people who are victims of crime its good the government want to help
, I am also an African,” said Raymond Harris before collapsing, crying, into the arms of Safety and Security Minister Nathi Mthethwa.
Mthethwa had gone to Harris and his wife Adéle’s Doornkop home to get first-hand information about the murder of two of their relatives.
Chris Bam, 57, and his son André, 28, were shot dead by robbers in July. André was shot in the head and died instantly. Chris was shot six times and died three weeks later.
“We are not angry. We’re praying for the attackers. The first few days racism reared its head, but I told my wife it should stop.
“We love this country. We moved to Australia, but came back.
“Do not let the colour of my skin deceive you. I am also an African. I was born here,” he told Mthethwa.
Harris said they’d pray for Mthethwa and fFor crime prevention to succeed.
The minister took both his and Adéle’s hands and thanked them for their hospitality.
“I promise you. We’ll tackle crime head-on.”
He then embraced the couple. Harris sobbed in Mthethwa arms.
‘All that’s left is fear’
Mthethwa then visited Christo Jacobs, 37, and his wife, Christa, 35, at their home in Kameeldrift.
Christo told how his parents had been shot and his wife raped by armed robbers.
“If it weren’t for God having come into our lives, I don’t know what would have happened. All that’s left now is the fear of another attack.”
Christa said she’d come to grips with what happened to her.
“Satan wanted to steal my happiness, health, marriage and life, but didn’t succeed. God healed us.”
hey rooster
do u think the slowing world econmey will affect south africa?
my dad has had to lay off 5 workers in ausie cause they are slowing down alot
will things be bad in sa to?
its good rooster that the government is going out there to meet victims of crime or people who are poor and needy
cause it will help the government see what the needs are and our concerns will be heard
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its good rooster that the government is going out there to meet victims of crime or people who are poor and needy
cause it will help the government see what the needs are and our concerns will be heard
08 December 2008 05:00
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Sure. there is no doubt. South Africa will go through an inevitable economic slow down like the rest of the world. However we will be a little better off than most western countries. But yes , 2009 will be a challenge.
heres a positve story
its good the government is visting people who are victims of crime its good the government want to help
, I am also an African,” said Raymond Harris before collapsing, crying, into the arms of Safety and Security Minister Nathi Mthethwa.
Mthethwa had gone to Harris and his wife Adéle’s Doornkop home to get first-hand information about the murder of two of their relatives.
Chris Bam, 57, and his son André, 28, were shot dead by robbers in July. André was shot in the head and died instantly. Chris was shot six times and died three weeks later.
“We are not angry. We’re praying for the attackers. The first few days racism reared its head, but I told my wife it should stop.
“We love this country. We moved to Australia, but came back.
“Do not let the colour of my skin deceive you. I am also an African. I was born here,” he told Mthethwa.
Harris said they’d pray for Mthethwa and fFor crime prevention to succeed.
The minister took both his and Adéle’s hands and thanked them for their hospitality.
“I promise you. We’ll tackle crime head-on.”
He then embraced the couple. Harris sobbed in Mthethwa arms.
‘All that’s left is fear’
Mthethwa then visited Christo Jacobs, 37, and his wife, Christa, 35, at their home in Kameeldrift.
Christo told how his parents had been shot and his wife raped by armed robbers.
“If it weren’t for God having come into our lives, I don’t know what would have happened. All that’s left now is the fear of another attack.”
Christa said she’d come to grips with what happened to her.
“Satan wanted to steal my happiness, health, marriage and life, but didn’t succeed. God healed us.”
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That's a sad story. I know sometimes I seem to treat human beings as statistics and may come across as callous. I promise you I'm not. I truly feel for anyone whose been a victim of crime. I want crime to be a thing of the past as much as anyone else. I think the way to do this is by uplifting the country economically. And the requires we promite South Africa in more of a positive note. It's a universal fact that people with something to lose , apart from the mentally ill , do not commit violent crimes.
Wow Rooster, you're a bit of an idiot aren't ya. Hasn't this whole "White Genocide" situation got to do with the the white farmers which are being murdered at a very high rate.
Yes the statistics say that more black people are being murdered in South Africa but you are killing yourselves.
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