Friday, 29 July 2011

Why not...global warming ...so what's the deal ?

Go !

35 comments:

pincer said...

http://shutupwhitey.blogspot.com/2011/07/tail-between-legs.html

"All your web traffic are belong to us!"

Is this a concealed threat?

And how about this?

http://shutupwhitey.blogspot.com/2011/02/what-do-you-get-for-being-cunt.html

1) http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml#a19

This debate will be continued by Pincer until and when such date has been reached where this website and its owner(s) will comply to the following conditions:

1) The assumed blog owner Rooster must provide proof that he did not act in contravention of the child protection act, following certain allegations by some comments on this blog.

2) The blasphemous attacks on the Afrikaner must stop and replaced by a reasonable debate style. This website is accessible internationally and not an internal communication to your kitchen staff. It boils down to a denigration campaign.

http://www.dutchmen.blogspot.com/

3) And lastly there must be some form of agreement under which guidelines the debate will take place.

http://www.actdu.org.au/archives/actein_site/basicskills.html

Before compliance of these conditions - no more further communications from Pincer.

The Rooster said...

1) The assumed blog owner Rooster must provide proof that he did not act in contravention of the child protection act, following certain allegations by some comments on this blog.
_________________

Fuck off. Pincer I am entirely able to delete or not publish any posts I like. I am not even for a second going to even consider responding to absurd, childish, DUMB allegations.

The Rooster said...

2) The blasphemous attacks on the Afrikaner must stop and replaced by a reasonable debate style. This website is accessible internationally and not an internal communication to your kitchen staff. It boils down to a denigration campaign.

http://www.dutchmen.blogspot.com/

________________

Blasphemous ? Afrikaners are deities ?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha !

Fuck off again. I will take the piss of who and how whenever I want. I really don't give a toss whether you take your anal retentive tendencies elsewhere.

The Rooster said...

3) And lastly there must be some form of agreement under which guidelines the debate will take place.

http://www.actdu.org.au/archives/actein_site/basicskills.html

Before compliance of these conditions - no more further communications from Pincer.

___________

Do I look like I care ? Feel free to get totally and entirely fucked for all I care in fact.

The Rooster said...

Let's be clear. This is my blog. You are a guest here. You comply to my rules buddy or you feel free to exercise your rights to piss off.

The Rooster said...

In fact I am taking that power away from you. Until you behave in a less petulant manner, you are no longer allowed to post on my blog.

Dachshund said...

1) The assumed blog owner Rooster must provide proof that he did not act in contravention of the child protection act, following certain allegations by some comments on this blog.
_________________________________

WTF?? Half you Dutchmen were in incestuous relationships with your mothers while your fathers were boffing the maid and/or finding themselves black ass in the townships, and you dare come up with this shit?

Dachshund said...

GEEN MA-NAAIERS, MEIDE-NAAIERS OF SWARTSEUN-NAAIERS IS OP HIERDIE BLOG TOEGELAAT NIE.

Dachshund said...

I thought this slot was going to feature a discussion on global warming? The way the weather's been lately in north KZN inclines me to rather believe in global cooling.

Pincer, please don't come back here. You're too immature for any kind of duscussion. It's a pity I Luv SA closed itself up like a clam - they could accommodate the likes of young Pincer.

Anonymous said...

"I thought this slot was going to feature a discussion on global warming? The way the weather's been lately in north KZN inclines me to rather believe in global cooling."

It will be Rooster but I just pulled a 12HR shift so will look in tomorrow. Having well earned beer right now.

So pincer is out then, too bad. I better choose a screen name also. I was thinking Splutoniun3.0? or some other isotope.

Cheers buddy

Anonymous said...

"fact I am taking that power away from you. Until you behave in a less petulant manner, you are no longer allowed to post on my blog."

Tit-for-tat is a higher order ESS (evolutionary stable stratagy). Good move, you don't want to play sucker. Game theory never favours suckers.

Dachshund said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Anonymous said...

"The debate is whether the earth is unnaturally heating because there is more carbon dioxide....or... Is there more carbon dioxide because the world is naturally heating."

-----------------------------------

Natural sources of carbon dioxide are more than 20 times greater than sources due to human activity,but over periods longer than a few years natural sources are closely balanced by natural sinks, mainly photosynthesis of carbon compounds by plants and marine plankton. As a result of this balance, the atmospheric mole fraction of carbon dioxide remained between 260 and 280 parts per million for the 10,000 years between the end of the last glacial maximum and the start of the industrial era.

Over the last 150 years, carbon dioxide (CO2) concentrations have risen from 280 to nearly 380 parts per million (ppm).

Since the industrial revolution, we have been burning fossil fuels and clearing and burning forested land at an unprecedented rate. Even a back of envelope calculation will show that we have produced far more CO2 than now remains in the atmosphere. The roughly 500 billion metric tons of carbon we have produced is enough to have raised the atmospheric concentration of CO2 to nearly 500 ppm. This has not happened because the ocean and the plants have the capacity to absorb some of the CO2 we produce but we produce CO2 faster than the ocean and biosphere can absorb(resulting in the ocean acidification and saturation that is now destroying coral reefs and effecting marine ecosystems). This explains the increase.

Another way to know is through the measurement of carbon isotopes. Comparing consentration ratios with samples in tree rings and ice cores for example scientistic can trace back to the source of the CO2 and the results show that fossil fuels are responsible for the increase we see. There are other methods which I can get into later.

Anonymous said...

"Remember the hubdub in the 80's about the "ozone layer" and how cfc's were going to kill us all ?"

Engineers are still today removing old refrigeration systems, fire suppression systems and manufacturing processes that use chlorofluorocarbons. Just ask your local building services engineer. CFC are damaging to the environment and needed to be removed.
As a computer guy, you know how the Y2K bug hubdub was going to kill us all when in fact the real problem was due to the antiquate dating system that needed to be, and was, upgraded to four didgets. Simple, but as is the nature of global human events they tend to mutate into hysteria; same thing with global warming. As I have said, the arguments in scientific circles (and there are many) do not resemble the AGW dabate we see in the media and internet blogs.
There is now a strong concensus for AGW.

Anonymous said...

This won't be as fun without prancer. He/She/It has a writing style that makes my choking hand twitch. I can feel the motivation for this trickling away.

I'm sorry somebody lied to him about Jesus but not everything is a conspiracy. Then again, somethings are and we might never know.

Dachshund said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Dachshund said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Boertjie said...

The proof of global warming? BIG lol!

On the topic of weather, I'm a bit of a weather watcher with a fascination for storms. Based on what I see in the media and the weather forecasts, thunderstorms in the Eastern Cape can get particularly violent compared to the highveld. Can you perhaps confirm this, Rooster?

Oh, and I think tornadoes are somewhat more common in SA than people may realize. My hometown has seen at least two damaging tornadoes within a 3-year period. Once I was lucky enough to see a spinning funnel cloud. I say I was lucky, because, from first appearing, it lasted for about a minute. On another occasion I saw a landspout, which lasted about ten minutes. All this in my hometown-area.

And tornadoes is the one reason why I wouldn't want to live in the USA's great plains! Currently this is my favourite tornado-video :

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzk_vnGftYE)

Although its not that spectacular, its my favourite because you can just soooo feel how cold that wind and rain is! And you know the twister is there right in front of you, but you can't always see it that clearly. And take note how the wind tugs on the car.

And on the subject of this exceptionally cold and long winter...can't we organise a mass demonstration and toi-toi demanding higher temperatures?

Boertjie said...

Oh, and on the subject of humor...I was waiting for an opportunity to show you this :

http://www.snaaksgenoeg.co.za/trilwillem-maak-sy-bure-boos/

The Rooster said...

I will confirm rainfall this year has surpassed any time in my recalled history in the E.C.

Anonymous said...

"And on the subject of this exceptionally cold and long winter...can't we organise a mass demonstration and toi-toi demanding higher temperatures?"

-----------------------------------

Funny, and who would had thought; we don't need all this fancy science stuff, we just have to look out of our windows and decide about GLOBAL warming.

The Rooster said...

To be clear I have yet to delete a single comment from pincer. He seems to have put his tail between his legs and fucked off. I was never intent on censoring him, that's against the culture of this blog. But when he was dumb enough to perpetuate this madness about me being a pedo he showed a serious lack of rational thought and poor judgement.

Catch me on team fortress 2 as plutonium anytime buddy. Just beware I backstab like a motherfuker.

Anonymous said...

Sir Henry Bartle Frere used the same tactic on the zulu king Cetshwayo but it was not for a tactical retreat as is the case with pincer.

Anonymous said...

Maybe I will. What platform - PC?
I use to play GRAW 2. Got to 450 on world rankings back in the days when I had some spare time on my hands.

The Rooster said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
The Rooster said...

Pc of course. I do own a xbox 360 and platstation3 but that shit is amateur compared to my frankenstein box.

Anonymous said...

PC tends to attract a lot of cheaters (aim bots, transparent Walls etc.) especially with vapourware. What's the situation with TF2?

The Rooster said...

Vapourware ? Your nerd points matured by at least 50 points. Which if you understand in terms of nerdage is a heck of a lot of nerd points.

Anonymous said...

Cool, where can I cash them in?

The Rooster said...

Any self respecting nerd would realise that nrd points are for wall mouting not cashing in.

Anonymous said...

Shit, I've been found out!!

You mean you still have space after mounting all those red-neck heads?

Talking of conspiracy, I'm trying to figure out this e-cat thing. What's your take ( if any).

Anonymous said...

The Inquisition of Climate Science
by James Lawrence Powell

"My dictionary describes the Spanish Inquisition as “an institution that guarded the orthodoxy of Catholicism in Spain, chiefly by the persecution of heretics”. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, Spain and Italy were dangerous places for those exploring 'unorthodox' ideas. Those accused of non-Catholic beliefs or actions were subjected to horrific torture during the inquisition's tribunals to produce a confession, which would lead to their punishment and, often, death. Among those interrogated was the astronomer Galileo, who was forced to recant on his statements on heliocentrality, despite there being no evidence to support the Church-held geocentric view. In the twenty-first century, is climate science being judged by an inquisition of climate deniers in a similarly unscientific way?"

I have not read this but it is recommended reading from one of the worlds top journals, Nature. I will let you know how it goes.

The idea of cutting down on CO2 and other green house gases has attracted a lot of opposition but the voice of scepticism has been drowned out by hysteria. It's no wonder the average lay person has no idea what to think anymore.

CO2 is also not the whole story.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v476/n7358/full/nature10322.html

Anonymous said...

The evidence for rapid climate change is compelling:
(Nasa has lot of pretty pictures too http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/)

Sea level rise

Global sea level rose about 17 centimeters (6.7 inches) in the last century. The rate in the last decade, however, is nearly double that of the last century.(4)

Global temperature rise

All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880. (5) Most of this warming has occurred since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occurred since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occurring in the past 12 years. (6) Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase. (7)

Warming oceans

The oceans have absorbed much of this increased heat, with the top 700 meters (about 2,300 feet) of ocean showing warming of 0.302 degrees Fahrenheit since 1969.(8)

Shrinking ice sheets

The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost 150 to 250 cubic kilometers (36 to 60 cubic miles) of ice per year between 2002 and 2006, while Antarctica lost about 152 cubic kilometers (36 cubic miles) of ice between 2002 and 2005.

Declining Arctic sea ice

Both the extent and thickness of Arctic sea ice has declined rapidly over the last several decades. (9)

Glacial retreat

Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world — including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa.(10)

Extreme events

The number of record high temperature events in the United States has been increasing, while the number of record low temperature events has been decreasing, since 1950. The U.S. has also witnessed increasing numbers of intense rainfall events.(11)

Ocean acidification

Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the acidity of surface ocean waters has increased by about 30 percent.(12,13) This increase is the result of humans emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and hence more being absorbed into the oceans. The amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by the upper layer of the oceans is increasing by about 2 billion tons per year.(14,15)

See references next:

Dachshund said...

Vapourware ... what a cool concept. Must tell my clients to go long on out-of-the-money vanilla vapourware options.

Debate blog - Julio said...

"I think the global warming issue was taken or taken in a way that is not 100% accurate because it focuses on the theory of its existence but it hides the individual damages they cause certain industries that give rise to speak on a general and not individually. Even shifting the subject to global warming with their various theories to not take over environmental damage and produce individually and globally is not only carbon dioxide but cyanide for life.
My blog:
http://www.debatepopular.blogspot.com