Wednesday, 22 October 2008

To flag or not to flag ?

The new desperate lows S.A.S are stooping to in order to spread their b#llshit and lies lead a lot of people to flag them yesterday. They took the faked pictures down and for me by their standards that was almost human. Now they present a long motivating article to claim the pictures were in fact given to them by a rogue cop who wanted to spread the truth.

Yeah right. If you had such pictures, and they weren't in fact some kind of sick hoax, you'd run straight to those "credible" "purveyors of truth" "S.A.S" to get your message out. That's sure to make people take it seriously.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

S.A.S ..you are the last people anyone wanting to be taken seriously would turn to. The one sure way you can guarantee that your images will be doubted and your anti-black "inside information" laughed off would be to post it with well known hollocaust denialists racist nazi's. It's an insult to the South African police that they would have anything to do with you.

It's also screams against logic that such images if they were credible would not have made a huge stink in the hyper sensationalistic, violence worshipping South African media. Or that black cops would be all in on the great cover up...so apathetic to such an image. I'm sorry S.A.S ...but your "word" is no good. You're devisive liars and sociopaths and I'd put my dick in diamond cutting bladed blender before I'd lend anything you offer any credibility.

If S.A.S fail to express any form of realisation how it might be wrong as a site that spends it's every paragraph wishing death and destruction upon black people to post up a picture (no matter how fake) of a massacred black baby.....then screw them. Do they really think anyone is going to buy that they in any way post the picture to ellicit sympathy for black people rather than as some form of a trophy ? Really S.A.S ...with a striaght face you expect us to believe you post out of concern now for black babies ? You're just worried about the poor little black children now, is that it ?

And that's not even to consider the possibility that the pictures are real. How would you feel as a mother to have your dead babies pictures displayed on a black hate site to further their agenda ?

There is no defending the inhumanity of what you did you sick f#cks
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Until they offer something resembling a sincere apology for their callousness (and or lies), then if you like me felt they went way to far by posting those pictures (whether real or fake)then click the flag icon on top of their blog. Do it every day or re-set your cookies and do it as many times a day as you like. Get the whole office to do it. Post it on forums to do it. That was so out of line in every way.

The ball is in your court S.A.S. I don't expect a sucking up apology. Just take down all reference to the pictures, admit you have no way of knowing they are real, and admit it may be callous to the mother to post their dead babies pictures on a black hate site.

Bovinerebel@hotmail.com

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

Your blog has become boring, rooster. You're completely obsessed with that site, a site for which I have no time. Therefore, I have no time for your blog anymore.

Have fun commenting on everything that those racists do.

Cheers, I'm moving on.

The Rooster said...

I was candid about the fact that i was busy at the moment. If you're expecting original crative content you're going to have to wait a few days...if youre interested in the ongoing battle with the idiots of S.A.S I'll have a thing or two to post in te interim (because it's so easy). Take it or leave it.

The Rooster said...

*creative even

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Anonymous said...

i agree with the 1st comment. stop being so obsessed with SAS. you're making them more famous and giving them more traffic.

it's like you cant wait for their next entry so that you can say something about it.

you're killing it, rooster.

i'm also going somewhere else.

The Rooster said...

You've been heard boys and you're probably right. I should cut back on the S.A.S stuff as by responding to them you lend them credibility and send them traffic. Fuck them. Time perhaps to take the blog in the a new direction.

The Rooster said...

My next posts will therefore be a follow up on the supposive link between hiv and aids and what I consider the idiocy of the death penalty.

The Rooster said...

Oops..did I just delete 12 comments from the same poster that had a contrary view to mine ? How careless of me !

(mwahahahahahahaha)

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter about S.A.S Dooster, you still suck.

Anonymous said...

I can't remember where you spoke about it, but you were talking about a weak rand being good for SA.

I'm not sure how you can say that. Can you provide some sources for that?

Every analyst on 702 says that a weak rand is not good for the masses. Imports become expensive, which means that petrol goes up, many foods go up, transport goes up, casual spending goes down, etc.

the negatives outweigh the positives.

The Rooster said...

South Africa is a country with loads of natural resources. We've enjoyed huge growth in the manufacturing sector. To keep up this growth while the world heads to recession requires us to be more competitive against other developing economies such as china , brazil and india. With the rand slipping 33% and the Chinese Yuan at around 6.5 to the dollar South African products now enjoy a serious competitive advantage.

Of course it's a good thing you idiots...china has been trying to devalue their currency for years...and look at their growth..near on 10 % for years !

Anonymous said...

I don't think I agree. I'll go with the vast majority of analysts and economists.

You can't compare SA with any other country. Why? Because SA isn't any other country. EG, CHina is communist, and SA isn't. There are multitudes of factors that add to it. You can't SA to anyone.

The masses of SA will be more negatively impacted than positively. it's logical.

Anonymous said...

"A strong currency benefits all the citizens of a country by way of stable prices, low interest rates, and the respect of foreigners. It would be folly to think otherwise."

- source.

Wise words.

Anonymous said...

With a weaker rand:

- imported goods become more expensive, which is just about everything in shops,
- cars become more expensive
- planes become more expensive
- clothes become more expensive
- travelling outside of SA becomes less attractive
- oil becomes more expensive
- petrol becomes more expensive

in short, general living becomes more expensive and harder. Masses of jobs are lost because import industries take a beating. Exports never get hit as hard, regardless of the currency's strength.

SA imports more than it exports. With a weaker rand, quality of life for the masses decreases.

A strong rand is better.

Anonymous said...

Just looking tonight the rand has hit 19 to the pound and 11.5 to the dollar (and 1.67 Yuan seeing you're obsessed with china trade)
That's not good in anyone's language!
Seeing SA imports most of its shit things are going to get scary expensive!
This cannot be offset by exports of "natural resources" either, as you so lovingly predict - the rest of the world just does not have money to buy them!(check the latest commodity prices- they are going down faster than a "hoe in debben")
I can see the masses getting really pissed off and "rising" to the occasion.

The Rooster said...

Just looking tonight the rand has hit 19 to the pound and 11.5 to the dollar (and 1.67 Yuan seeing you're obsessed with china trade)
That's not good in anyone's language!
Seeing SA imports most of its shit things are going to get scary expensive!
This cannot be offset by exports of "natural resources" either, as you so lovingly predict - the rest of the world just does not have money to buy them!(check the latest commodity prices- they are going down faster than a "hoe in debben")
I can see the masses getting really pissed off and "rising" to the occasion.

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Ok...go and buy all the dollars you can !!! Run , Run ! Everyone knows it's so smart to buy on a high !!!

(rolls eyes)

Seen it all before my friend. By the way it's a world wide trend, most currencies are struggling against the dollar and pound...there's nothing uniquely south african about it. But you go slit your wrists if you want...you fail to understand that your currency value is not a simple reflection of your financial health. It's far more complicated than that. As long as your current situation encourages production and trade then you're doing well....that's how economies grow. I have little to no doubt that rand will settle around 9 to the dollar , which before any of this even happened I suggested would be a good compromise. South Africa becomes an extremely attractivre destination for investment with a weak rand..which is exactly what we need as a developing country. Do you know how much cheaper it is for people to travel here, buy houses here, invest here, buy our products etc right now ?

Even for those existing exporters...they're getting 40% more for their goods now that before....sure the importers are paying 40% more, but all that does is makes local producers much more competitive for the local market and weens us off the necessity to import...this is a good thing in almost every single way. The good FAR outweights the bad !

The Rooster said...

- imported goods become more expensive, which is just about everything in shops,
- cars become more expensive
- planes become more expensive
- clothes become more expensive
- travelling outside of SA becomes less attractive
- oil becomes more expensive
- petrol becomes more expensive

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No in south africa cars do not become more expensive...we produce almost all the cars we consume locally right here on ourn shores. What does increase is the profit we make from exporting those cars and the competitive prices we can do it at to expand the market.

Clothes FROM OTHER COUNTRIES become mroe expensive...making it a perfect opportunity for local based textile companies to muscle in on the market , again expanding the economy and creating jobs...it also obviously helps the same companeis once established in the local market to start exporting to rthe very same countries we once imported from. Cool huh ?

Travelling outside of S.A becomes more expensive and oil/petrol (did you not know they're the same thing plus some refinement?) ...boo hoo. Those travelling for business are thus making 40% more from their overseas expansions/markets ..only a few holiday makers suffer...excuse me if I don't shed a tear for the jet setting class who are plenty rich enough.
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in short, general living becomes more expensive and harder. Masses of jobs are lost because import industries take a beating. Exports never get hit as hard, regardless of the currency's strength.
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What rubbish...what jobs does the import sector provide ? A few sole prop. businessmen bringing in luxury goods or goods we don't produce here ? The ammount of jobs that will be created by the niche to be found in the S.a market far outweight that....if imported products go up 40% the opportunity is brilliant for someone who produces locally to flood the market with his goods and get south africans weened of imports and consuming own home made goods...how the hell is this bad ???

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SA imports more than it exports. With a weaker rand, quality of life for the masses decreases.

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Right we do....not for long though. A weak rand will change all of that. Again , isn't that great ?

I've been saying it for ages...let the rand slide ...we're a developing country. A strong rand eventually will be a good thing , but not now while we're in the midst of economic expansion.

With the world wide economy in turmoil right now without a weak rand we'd stand to lose far more export potential than we gain.

I'm sorry man..you have no case. Just buy a bmw or merc instead of
a volvo (or do we produce those here now too?)...

As a tangible example, Samsung are planning a string of electronic factories in S.A due to our now even cheaper labour..so let's hope the rand doesn't strengthen too much and make them change their mind.

The Rooster said...

This Today on www.fin24.com
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IMF upbeat about SA growth

Johannesburg - The International Monetary Fund's Article IV Report released on Wednesday projects economic growth as moderate at 3.8% for 2008 and 3.7% for 2009.

For 2010 it is looking at GDP growth of 4.4% and for 2011 growth of 4.8%.

This, however, is slightly better than the National Treasury's projection of 3.7% for 2008 and only 3% for 2009. For 2010, the National Treasury forecasts growth of 4% and for 2011 growth of 4.3%.

The report states that since the beginning of 2008, the economy has been buffeted by a series of economic shocks. It says real GDP growth has slowed down in 2008 having been affected by both domestic conditions and the current global economic environment.

It regards the major risks to the economy and its forecast as power supply constraints, lower demand in partner countries, the cumulative effect on consumption of a tightening monetary policy and elevated debt service burdens among households.

It highlights however that South Africa has not been immune to the inflationary pressure arising from increases in global food and oil prices. Since breaching the 3% to 6% inflation target in April 2007, inflation has continued to rise, but is expected to peak later this year before beginning a downward trajectory.

The IMF forecasts CPIX of 11.3% for 2008 and CPI of 9.2% for 2009. It sees inflation down at 6.5% in 2010 and 4.8% in 2011.

The National Treasury projects CPIX of 11.6% for 2008 and CPI of 6.2% in 2009, which is much lower than the IMF's forecast. For 2010 and 2011, it forecasts CPI of 5.3% and 4.7% which are also lower than the IMF's projections.

The IMF projects the current account deficit at 9% of GDP in 2008 and 9.6% in 2009, compared to the National Treasury's more optimistic 2008 budget forecast of 7% to 8% of GDP. The rising current account deficit and inflation pose a critical challenge in the period ahead if we want to continue to accelerate growth and spur job creation. It supports current policy by the SARB and National Treasury to build up of reserves when market conditions are favourable.

- I-Net Bridge

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there's also an article there suggesting the rand is still overvalued...I'd say it's about right...10/11 to the dollar. Very good situation and opportunity for the country.

The Rooster said...

By the way it would be very easy for south africa to artificially strengthen the rand like almost every other country has done with their currency. They're eplaying it very smart and cool though. I must say we really know what we're doing in S.a...look at the silly americans ...the dollar looks great while the rest of the economic system is crumbling all around them. No , no ...well done Trevor...never mind the rable rousing idiots who don't understand these things like you and me sir. We've heard it all before haven't we ...they still haven't stopped 32 quarters of economic expansion in (so people never learn).

The Rooster said...

Don't think going anywhere will protect you from the coming global recession...when recession comes (and it's coming) you'll be far better off in south africa than established hypercompetitive economis like U.K , Germant, australia , U.S. etc....you want to be somwhere will potential for growth rather than stagnation. But it's your life...just study a bit of economics before you slip your wrists and commit financial suicide by thinking you'd be better off in a country where there's no room for expansion during a recession.

The Rooster said...

Maybe I'm just smiling cause I earn dollars and pounds. Sing with me boys...

"It's more fun when you're winning !"

Anonymous said...

rooster, you're a fucking cunt who thinks he knows everything. You have an answer to fucking everything.

now you're preaching about economics?? do you have any idea what a fool you look like?

you're wrong. a weak rand is shit for the masses in SA. and i'll go with what the economists and analysts say, who are actually qualified in this field.

you lose.

Anonymous said...

before rooster compares to other countries again...

"The JSE's all share index ended Wednesday 4.60% lower, led by a 5.92% decline in resources, with gold miners giving up 5.82% and platinum miners shedding 5.52%. Banks tumbled 6.77% and financials fell 4.54%, while industrials were down 3.22%."

- that sounds uplifting.

""The weakness in banks today could also be because of the rand, which is creating a difficult trading environment, combined with the slowdown mentioned by Trevor Manuel yesterday," he said."

- AWESOME! let it slide! it can only be positive!

"Eskom will only make 67 000 new connections this financial year - 46% fewer than the previous year."

- wow, we're really booming now. there's no stopping SA's development.

"The number of South Africans who can't afford to pay their life assurance premiums have skyrocketed, according to a new report."

- yip, it's looking good.

Anonymous said...

IF THERE WAS A GOD HE WOULD GET RID OF ALL THE KAFFERS AND MUSLIMS ON THIS PLANET. BUT AS THERE IS NO GOD IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
We are just stuck with them and there is not much we can do about it. Or is there something we can do.......AIDS was a start but it was to slow.

Anonymous said...

rooster, you're making no sense. why would anybody, especially the poorer masses, want a weaker rand?

- oil goes up
- traveling becomes more expensive
- job losses increase, because the entire import sector is affected.
- shopping malls, who import most of their goods, take strain
- transport costs increase
- food increases (because the agriculture sector takes a knock because of oil etc)
- interest rates increase
- inflation increases
- the rand's international buying power is weakened
- what happens if we reach R30 to the dollar? how about R50?

The people affected the least are the wealthy. The ones affected the most are the poor. Calling for a weak rand is insensitive towards the masses.

The Rooster said...

rooster, you're a fucking cunt who thinks he knows everything. You have an answer to fucking everything.

now you're preaching about economics?? do you have any idea what a fool you look like?

you're wrong. a weak rand is shit for the masses in SA. and i'll go with what the economists and analysts say, who are actually qualified in this field.

you lose.

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Show me one economist who would say that a weaker rand is entirely a bad thing. Show me one that would dare say a slightly undervalued currency is not the best thing for a developing country. Man make sense or shut up.

Anonymous said...

rooster, please provide overwhelming evidence that a weaker rand is good for SA. not opinion, please.

Or else keep quiet and let the adults talk.

Anonymous said...

So we have all this gold and natural resources being taken out of the ground by millions of black cheap labour. But COSATU tels them to strike for more wages and less work. But the mines cant pay more or have to shut down, firing thousands of blacks....

So the currency that you pay the slaves in, must be devallued. You still get the same amount of dollars for the gold, but more Rands, due to the weakness of the Rand against the dollar. Seeing that you pay the slaves in Rands, they are happy to get an increase and to stupid to realise they are being screwed over...not by the mines, but by the people who told them to strike in the first place. A weak Rand is in the long run detrimental to all in the country. I would much rather prefer a strong stable currency than a weak fluctuating currency.

The Rooster said...

rooster, you're making no sense. why would anybody, especially the poorer masses, want a weaker rand?

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A few posts back I just told you why. Jesus what's wrong with you people ? Can't you absorb information effectively ? Accomodate and assimulate people...a dog can fucking do it !

Look...this is how economics works....you try and find a balance. You need to import , but you also need to exprort. Each country has different and specific needs...for us we need to bosst exports and slow down on imports....and what better way could this be forced to happen that a weaker rand ?

Seriously...those gettign a hard on and only seeing the negative side of a weaker rand aren't interesting in the big picture. Any sophisticated look at our economy would scream out about how sound our fundamentals are compared to the rest of the world. You want to know who looks like a fool ? Someone who thinks the health of an economy is directly proportional to it's currency....do you know how many Yen or Won you need to buy one dollar ? 120 yen or 1300 dollars (both by the way have slipped about 30% against the dollar in the same time as the rand)....does that make Japan and South Korea poor countries ? No you dumb fucks. Being big importers of raw materials it is a bad thign for them....their competitiveness against china in electronis is affected...but for the suppliers of raw materials like south africa, or those seeking to compete with their textile and manufacturing sectors it's freaking brilliant news. So dry your fucking tears you blowhard.

If the rand slips to 20 to the dollar or something and stays there..yes we have a big problem..we'll see hyper inflation, extrame devaluation of assets etc....but the rand around 10-12 to the dolar is the perfect balance so that we hardly feel the effects while increase our competitiveness and grow our economy by manufacturing more goods for export and personal use (rather than importing it)..it's about balance you cunts.

The Rooster said...

The people affected the least are the wealthy. The ones affected the most are the poor. Calling for a weak rand is insensitive towards the masses.
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Nope you have it entirely the opposite. The only people affected are the rich who consume luxury imported goods.

The Rooster said...

"The JSE's all share index ended Wednesday 4.60% lower, led by a 5.92% decline in resources, with gold miners giving up 5.82% and platinum miners shedding 5.52%. Banks tumbled 6.77% and financials fell 4.54%, while industrials were down 3.22%."

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Go to jsut about any freaking financial news of any country in the past few weeks and you will read exactly the same thing. Christ....if your point is the world is facing economic recession who the hell would argue ? But when you try and paint it as if it's a uniquely south african problem ...frankly I'm tempted to just brush you off with a well placed "shut the fuck up".

Anonymous said...

you know, rooster, why don't you simply stop all comments that oppose yours?

the reason why your blog is shit is because you can't handle criticism or opposing views.

why don't you simply stop all comments and have discussions with yourself?

because your childish name-calling and insults all the time are silly and unfortunate.

you want to know why every single post of yours ends up in the same hatred, racism, and lack of educated discussion about your topic? it's because of what I've just said.

you also spend far too much crediting ZAHell, and it's really boring now.

so, this is my last comment (I'm joining the others who have left).

Enjoy your discussions with yourself and your insult hurtling.

That's the mature way.

Caio.

The Rooster said...

rooster, please provide overwhelming evidence that a weaker rand is good for SA. not opinion, please.

Or else keep quiet and let the adults talk.

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Only if you provide overwhelming evidence that it's bad.

Do you know what the rand was in 1996 before the country started it's long unending run of record breaking huge economic growth ? 4.3 to the dollar. In 2008 just before we started booming it lost 34%. to go to 6.5 Coincendence ?


I'll repeat(If you knew anything about economics you'd find this incredibly uncontroversial ): A weaker currency is a good/great/fantastic thing for a developing economy seeking to boost exports and stimulate production by being able to serve traditonal sectors of strong import much more competitively.

Must I put it in baby talk terms for you guys ? Little tommy and his apples ? Will that help ?

The Rooster said...

So we have all this gold and natural resources being taken out of the ground by millions of black cheap labour. But COSATU tels them to strike for more wages and less work. But the mines cant pay more or have to shut down, firing thousands of blacks....

So the currency that you pay the slaves in, must be devallued

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You're confused. The thing that devalues currencies are inflation rates. You trade off a slight (honestly almost insigificant) spike in the inflation rate for the MASSIVe increase in production. The alternative is far worse. What good would a stable rand do us if we could not export our products because the price was not competitve ? then we'd import everything, produce nothing , have a huge defecit, huge job losses ...and then my friend you'll see the real meaning of inflation.

You see muppets , it's about balance. Are you beginning to understand ? Any of you ?

A strong rand would be a tragedy for this country.

The Rooster said...

And also here's what you don't get. If you seel product x now for 5$ a piece overseas...you're now getting an additiona 40% for that product. If you could not sell product Y because country Z was buying it from somewhere else , I'd damn well bet you could now. Small business become big exporting businesses....more jobs.....more profits....

new small business fill the niche hole the now exporting businesses leave behind and start producing for the local population...they grow and south africa imports less...more of our own money to spend at home....more money all 'round....utopia !!!

Fucking idiots...how dare you say an undervalued rand is a bad thing !

The Rooster said...

you know, rooster, why don't you simply stop all comments that oppose yours?

the reason why your blog is shit is because you can't handle criticism or opposing views.

why don't you simply stop all comments and have discussions with yourself?

because your childish name-calling and insults all the time are silly and unfortunate.

you want to know why every single post of yours ends up in the same hatred, racism, and lack of educated discussion about your topic? it's because of what I've just said.

you also spend far too much crediting ZAHell, and it's really boring now.

so, this is my last comment (I'm joining the others who have left).

Enjoy your discussions with yourself and your insult hurtling.

That's the mature way.

Caio.

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What do you expect me to say ?

Oh you're such a clever boy. Yes a stronger rand would be great....that's what we need ...a reason to import more and less opportunity to export or produce locally ! That would really be great for our country ! thank you for showing me the light !

What the fuck ?

New rule :

If you don't want to be insulted then don't be fucking stupid.

Anonymous said...

I agree with that comment, rooster. how can you expect any educated discussion when you persist on insulting those who have differing opinions?

That's why this blog gets so few proper comments - because those who are intelligent don't want to be insulted and accused of being "you lot", "stupid cunts", "idiots", "little boys", etc.

Since you're going to fire names at me, I'll make this my last comment too.

The Rooster said...

I agree with that comment, rooster. how can you expect any educated discussion when you persist on insulting those who have differing opinions?

That's why this blog gets so few proper comments - because those who are intelligent don't want to be insulted and accused of being "you lot", "stupid cunts", "idiots", "little boys", etc.

Since you're going to fire names at me, I'll make this my last comment too.

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Just because i insult your intelligence that doesn't mean you need to insult mine. none of you will leave...you'll all be back here.

Look I do like intelligent comments and a good balanced debate. But if you come in here so misinformed with such an absurd and stupid idea such as "a bad rand = a bad thing" then I get irritated. I want to correct you in as quick a way as possible and be over with it. That means I ridicule your ideas if I find them idiotic and sometimes you get taken along for the ride. Don't take it so damn personally. i love all my non racist readers who want to discuss things like economics and hiv etc....I really do.

But it's good touch , not bad touch.

Anonymous said...

A call for he absolute and ultimate destrucyion of Africa. Thermo nuclear, whatever kill the coons.