Thursday, 18 September 2008

Pipe Dreams

I'm talking about the 2010 world cup. It is true what they say, the hopes of many people are riding on it. However for many of those people it will prove to be nothing more than a pipe dream.

Take this asshole fom for example...

From this site : I'm a total knob.

Good, we want the world cup in SA. For different reasons of course, the main one being 40 000 journos poking their noses into every nook and cranny. Maybe the illusion the world has of the idyllic ‘rainbow nation’ will go poof and they will see it for what it is: a beautiful country and culture being ruined by a despotic, kleptocratic organisation.

We need the quick coverage. Blogs like this and word of mouth will take too long to spread the truth.

Yes, it will be a good time. As for the event falling flat? A bonus. Bring on 2010.


So he thinks that 40 000 journalists, who have read nothing but negative scaremongering about South Africa and expect to land in a squatter camp engaged in warfare are going to arrive in South Africa and be anything less than astounded at how amazingly wealthy, modern , clean and beautiful it is ? Do you really think they will be unimpressed by our amazing infrastructure, hotels ,service industry, sights , friendly people , brilliant sporting fascilities ? All this in so called "hell hole" South Africa ?

Now that is a pipe dream !

Anyone I've ever met whose travelled to South Africa has been extremely pleasantly suprised. Every single one. And why wouldn't anyone be ? We're got first class tourist facicilities, the best game farms in the world, beautiful scenery, masses of fantastic wildlife reserves, awesome adventure tourism, wonderful and diverse cultures, a hauntingly beautiful and untouched coastline, extremely affordable food and wine, some of the most diverse fauna and flora in the world, world class cities, mountains ....everything !

I sometimes think the people who write the above rubbish are simple out of touch. In my community they are as we speak billions and billions of rands worth of investment pouring in everyday. New stores and shopping malles are opening everyday because the ones already open are packed to the rafters. New housing projects and development (middle to upmarket stuff) are going up extremely fast, yet not as fast as people can buy them. Every Tom and Harry with a business or trade is making a killing (all the Dick's have left). So remind me again ...which f#cking country are you muppets talking about ?

South Africa has a history of hosting excellent sporting events. The world cup cricket and Rugby were world class and universally celebrated as total sucesses. Clinging to the desperate hope that the South African world cup will be a failure is incredibly sad. I can't wait for that time...I can picture you boys now in your little expat bars screaming and throwing peanuts at the screen as the praise comes in.

Ah yes...the 2010 world cup. Never again after that time will anyone wander across your sites and take them seriously (if anyone even does). You'll be exposed for the out of touch scaremongers that you all are. And when you eventually do return to South Africa, the land of opportunity, realising what decline the west is in don't expect a welcome with open arms. Stay where you are f#ckheads. You're not wanted.

68 comments:

the niggerlover said...

My friend I live in Europe and nobody here is aware of the situation.
Since apartheid is finished, the world is not interested in South Africa anymore.
Nobody knows about the crime and the tourists more than the journalists will have a bad surprise.

Suk My Rooster, Rooster said...

I think "I'm a total knob' has got it pretty licked.

Amazing Infrastructure? Please tell me where to find this. Google Earth co-ords please.

Friendly People - I don't recall ever having read about a robber/rapist/murderer saying "Hello Sir/Madam", "Please" or "Thank You" before committing their crimes.

Criticising journo's will not make the everyday facts or murder/rape/child rape/armed robbery dissapear no matter how passionately you do it.

You are one seriously deluded dude. What planet do you live on?

The Rooster said...

NL....What situation exactly is there to be aware of other than te fact that South Africa has improved in every single way since 1994 ?

s.m.R

South Africa does not have amazing tourist 0infrastructure ? Why then do we always rank highly on worlds best hotels and resorts ? Our golf estates , beach resorts and game farms are not world class ? Stay away from the crazy pills.

Yes , South African people are extremely warm and friendly....saying they are not friendly based on the actions of the freakishly few bad eggs is akin to saying Americans are all evil because of Jeffrey Dahmer. Ridiculous. One trip into the Transkei would fix your silly notion of unfriendly people forever.

I'm not trying to make the crime states dissappear...they support my beliefs that crime has decreased...why would it be in my interest for them to dissappear ?

You are the deluded one....you read these ridiculous websites without the slighest bit of insight into why they people write such bollocks. You've been made a fool of.

The Rooster said...

And it doesn't matter what anyone has heard. When they hear "africa" they are thinkig quatter camps, disease, starvation, lions in the backyard. While that stereotype is true for a small proportion of South Africa , what they will never be expected is the first world, modern infrastructure that is EVERYWHERE.

Every negative story these fools posts is likely to sweetend the experience the journalists have. You'd understand this phenomena if you've ever gone to see a good movie with really low expectations.

So keep up the good work of lowering expectations and enusring a brilliantly acclaimed world cup which will bolster South Africa into the next level of awesomeness and global adoration. On and keep helping us filter out the white losers from the country.

The Rooster said...

Actually I suggest anyone go to google earth and zip around South Africa's major cities and take a look for how many houses have big yards , swimming pools. The sporting facilites in the cities...etc.....Pretty damn impressive.

Anonymous said...

Actually, SA has not improved in every single way. Our press freedom has got worse since 1994. Take a look at this: http://jeremynell.com/2008/09/our-press-freedom-is-declining/

The Rooster said...

What ? Are you serious ? Freedom of press is better now that under apartheid South Africa ?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

Oops...bit of eurocentricism peeking through there ? Want to take that back ? Feel a little silly don't you ?

Anonymous said...

You're not reading properly. Where does that comment say "apartheid"? It says 1994 (and onwards). That is post-apartheid.

Fool.

The Rooster said...

When we talk about 1994 , we talk about year zero. You propose the media was better in 1994 than now ?

Please...If anything before it had a ridiculous right wing bias , and in 1994 a ridiculous left wing liberal hold hands and sing kumbuya bias.

I don't say it's perfect now and I'd support you in wanting to defend it.

Anonymous said...

When we talk about 1994, we do not talk about year zero. Don't be a fucking idiot.

Life didn't start in 1994.

You're still missing the point. Since 1994, SA's press freedom has declined. The facts are there, and your "SA has improved in every way" has been shown to be bunk.

SA might have improved in some ways, but not "every single way".

Anonymous said...

And yes, press freedom in SA was better in 1994 than now.

The facts prove it.

The Rooster said...

You don't get it. middle of 1994 = start of black government. We use 1994 to denote the time when blacks took over from whites. In no way is press freddom worse under black goverbment that it was under white government. It could go down by 700% and still be better than white government south Africa. The type of drivel poured into your fathers generation ears was NOT press freedom..it was total stalinist type machievellian propoganda.

Anonymous said...

Are you incapable of reading anything other than selectively?

I'm not talking about fucking apartheid, you stupid cunt.

I'm talking about 1994 onwards. 1995, if that makes you happy. (Since 1994 was half a year, in your book.)

Press freedom is worse now than in 1994 / 1995, in SA.

The facts prove it. Accept it and deal with it.

The Rooster said...

I think I've explained it quite well.Your inability to get it now is not my problem. I wash my hands of your stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Oh my god, you're a denialist. Ha ha ha!

Anonymous said...

Rooster, here's a challenge.

Prove that press freedom in SA has got better since 1994 / 1995.

(You may not refer to apartheid, since that's not in the scope of the challenge. Especially since you stated that 1994 was year zero.)

I've won anyway. Because you won't accept the challenge.

The Rooster said...

Sigh.

I don't need to prove that. We use 1994 as a marker of when the black government took over from the white government. All I need to prove is that press freedom is better now than since the white government. Are you really claiming it isn't ?

Let's not have a debate because of pedantics. I've defined the terms twice now of what my argument implies. If you're saying that (and I think you are) press freedom gradually improved after the white government and is now slowly decling , I'd agree with you. But not to an extent I say there is anything to panic about. We can still publish pictures of our president to be raping justice. Yes there's an outcry , but we can still do it. You could never do that in the Unites states of America by the way.

Anonymous said...

Press freedom dramatically improved after apartheid. But then it started declining, and still is.

Don't forget that Zuma wants to clamp down on the press. The ANCYL wants to clamp down on the press. COSATU wants to clamp down on the press.

No panic stations yet. But give it a few years.

The Rooster said...

As a libetarian , I'll be the first marching the streets is Zuma or anyone does that. We can agree that the day we have press freedom jeopordised is a very worrying day for our country.

The Rooster said...

I hope you notice and appreciate I allow any comments here no matter how insulting or damaging to my agenda. I'll all about freedom to express your ideas.

Anonymous said...

Oh what crap. You're not a libertarian - you've already been shown to be a wannabe in another thread.

And you do censor comments. I can vouch for that.

The Rooster said...

Bollocks. I have never censored a comment. I've stopped people making mutiple posts to avoid people having to scroll down entire pages , but I've never stopped anyone making a comment.

And yes , I'm 100% a libetarian in principle ...You fail to understand that inherent in libetarianism is the understanding that your freedom needs be flexible enough that sometimes our pragmatist must trump our ideals. It's hard to draw those lines , but actively encouraging harm and the hinderence of freedom on others through your speech , clearly violates the code of understanding with which a system of individual responsibility needs to operate.

Anonymous said...

Give it up. Arguing with this monkey man is like trying to teach a rooster to fly - both are as thick as pig shit and inherently argumentative and ignorant!
Kind of person that you pick up your drink and move away from in a bar every time!

The Rooster said...

Shame...don't call him a monkey man.

Anonymous said...

It's my word against yours. You censored one of my comments, but I'm not going to argue with your greatness (who can do no wrong).

I'm not going to argue with you and your convenient definition of libertarianism, since it's all hippie bunny-loving bullshit anyway.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, whether or not it hurts your feelings or makes you feel uncomfortable. And that should never be regulated by the state. You should know this.

You're in favour of state regulation of speech. Therefore you're not a libertarian, since you support the denial of individual liberty via speech.

Anonymous said...

Also, why the fuck do you keep stroking your own ego all the time? Why the fuck do you have to keep saying that you're a "libertarian", as if it actually has any kind of significance other than trying to look smart and educated and shit.

You're like a little kid who's jumping up and down trying to get picked for the rugby team.

The Rooster said...

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Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, whether or not it hurts your feelings or makes you feel uncomfortable. And that should never be regulated by the state. You should know this.

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Totally agree. Feelings don't come into it. Truth trumps feelings. Have never contradicted that except in your imagination.

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You're in favour of state regulation of speech. Therefore you're not a libertarian, since you support the denial of individual liberty via speech.

19 September 2008 03:05
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Totally disagree. I am totally opposed to it.

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It's my word against yours. You censored one of my comments, but I'm not going to argue with your greatness (who can do no wrong).
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Nope...never did. Post the comment again and I'll put it right up on here. Obviously as long as it's not dangerou information that offers potential harm to someone. You deserve your right to say what you want , but other deserve their right to privacy and safety even more so.

The Rooster said...

Why do i point out my political ideals ?

So that I don't get confused for a flaky left wing hippie. I hate those fucks as much as anyone.

Anonymous said...

You are opposed to total freedom of speech. You rallied to shut down the Bantu education blog.

It's their freedom to say what they want to say.

You want to deny them that.

Hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Anyway. Whatever. I'm bored now. Thanks for the entertainment, Mr Rooster. Bye.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and one last thing. You support affirmative action.

Libertarians don't support state-controlled discrimination.

The Rooster said...

Look kid , in a perfect world you could have "total freedoms". This is idiotic however in a world where more than one individual exists. It;s expected that people can have freedoms to the extent they don't try and hinder the freedoms of others. As i explain the right to say what you want gets trumps by the other peoples right to safety. It would be a world gone mad that we could openly conspire to harm one another. Stupid.

The Rooster said...

I don't support affirmitive action. I also don't think there is a state controlled conspiracy against white people. There is a middle ground...what do you propose the alternative to affirmitive action is ? The A.N.C taking no measures to enpower black people ? Do you actually want violent uprising ?

Idiots.

Anonymous said...

You support "kind of free speech" or "on-its-way-to free speech".

Which is not, by definition, free.

Being a libertarian means to censor yourself and to take responsibility for your own actions. Being a libertarian does not mean that you happily accept state-sanctioned regulations on speech.

That's my point. Think further than your nose. You might understand then, little boy.

Anonymous said...

I don't support affirmitive action. I also don't think there is a state controlled conspiracy against white people. There is a middle ground...what do you propose the alternative to affirmitive action is ? The A.N.C taking no measures to enpower black people ? Do you actually want violent uprising ?

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I'm not discussing policies or conspiracies or uprisings or whatever shit you're trying to add. I'm pointing out the flaws in your so-called libertarianism. Affirmative action is state-controlled discrimination, whichever way you look at it. Libertarians are opposed to that. Period.

The Rooster said...

Bullshit.

Listen...what do you think libetarianism means ? We have to willy nilly support and actively clap and cheer while everyone did exactly what the hell they wanted at the expense of the weak ? That's not libetenariasm idiot...that's fascim ! You joined the wrong group.

Libetarians support the idea of fighting for your own freedom , while supporting the freedom of others. The supporting the freedom of others parts includes the idea od "protecting others from having their freedom and rights infrighned upon" ...as well as support their rights to do as they please. It's a fucking balancing act. Really...it's not a difficult thing to understand.

The Rooster said...

I do not support state sanctioned regulations on speech...where the hell did I say that ?

The Rooster said...

Agreed ! But what do you think would happen if the people saw no efforts from the A.N.c to enrich black people ? Really...think about it for a moment. I don't support affirmitive action in principle , but the alternative is much worse. I consider the alternative to be anarchy and chaos. And while as a libetarian in a perfect world if you took libetarianism to i's logical conclusion you'd want the dismantling of government ,but no one really believes they want that in the case of South Africa. Our wealth discrepencies make it untenable at the present time. Once again , it's a balancing act.

Anonymous said...

"I do not support state sanctioned regulations on speech...where the hell did I say that ?"

By advocating the censoring of another's speech.


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"Listen...what do you think libetarianism means ?"

It comes from the word "liberty", meaning "freedom". It says nothing about other people. That's your own anecdotal inclusion. Which, of course, means that calling yourself a "libertarian" is stupid, since it means that you're putting yourself into a pre-defined box.

Which is also why you feel obliged to say "As a libertarian, I...". Personally, I prefer saying "As my own person, I...". I don't refer to another form of authority or rule-set to dictate my thoughts.

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"We have to willy nilly support and actively clap and cheer while everyone did exactly what the hell they wanted at the expense of the weak ? That's not libetenariasm idiot...that's fascim !"

"Liberty" means that you can do and say what you want. I've explained this. You're welcome to attack me in the streets. But I'll fuck you up. Your choice, therefore, was a bad one. Your choice was irresponsible. And it's not "facism", moron. There's no conspiracy against "the weak".


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"You joined the wrong group."

I've never once claimed to have joined any group. Don't make assumptions and end up looking like a big-headed fool.

Anonymous said...

"Our wealth discrepencies make it untenable at the present time. Once again , it's a balancing act."

That's not the point. We're discussing ideologies. Not racial balancing acts.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and another thing.

"Anarchy" does not mean "chaos". That's propaganda and absence of education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

Look it up for yourself.

The Rooster said...

The problem idiot is that the world consists of more than one person and class group. Which is where libetarianismns loftiest ideals fails pragmatically. Just like all political ideologies by the way. Recognising this is not a flaw but an necessity.

It seems we're having two different discussions here...you're talking about some utopia and i'm talking about the real world.

The Rooster said...

No , I will put you in a box. A lot of right wing people adopt libetarianism to reinforce their position of privelege rather than out of the geniune concern for the rights of everyone as an individual. It's a pervesion of what libetarianism means.

Anonymous said...

"It seems we're having two different discussions here...you're talking about some utopia and i'm talking about the real world."

We're talking about definitions, and you continue to deny them and end up creating some kind of anecdotal opinion on what it means to be "libertarian".

I've cited piles of sources to back up what I'm saying. You've cited nothing.

The Rooster said...

Do you udnerstand the meaning of the word "and".

If I said "black and white" would you link me to wikipedia and show me how black didn't mean white ?

what are you on about ? Make a decent point of shut up.

The Rooster said...

Here's what's happening : I'm talking about milk tart and you're showing me the recipes for chocolate cake.

Seriously kid , you may have nothing better to do than argue semantics , but some of us got out of university many years ago and are far more interested in the real world than talking about silly untenable ideoligies and their semantics.

Anonymous said...

Me right-wing? Ha ha ha. Please provide evidence for that ignorant assumption.

Or don't. I don't give a fuck what you think either way.

The Rooster said...

I don't care what your political positions are. Just propose something pragmatic and feasible or kindly remove yourself to the peanut gallery.

Anonymous said...

"Seriously kid , you may have nothing better to do than argue semantics , but some of us got out of university many years ago and are far more interested in the real world than talking about silly untenable ideoligies and their semantics."

Then don't call yourself a "libertarian" when you don't know what "liberty" means.

You lose. Now go ahead and insult me. That's what you're best at.

The Rooster said...

I am a libetarian. Are you trying to tell me what I can or can't do !

oops...you're not a libetarian ! look everyone ! He's trying to alter my behaviour , he can't be a libetarian !

(I could have pulled that cheap trick...exactly the same one you trying to pull , ages ago...I hope you see the silliness in your idea now)

Anonymous said...

"I don't care what your political positions are. Just propose something pragmatic and feasible or kindly remove yourself to the peanut gallery."

You're so fucking stupid and have your head up your own arse, that you don't get it. I'm not proposing anything. I'm pointing out that you are not a libertarian.

The Rooster said...

And as a libetarian , Ireserve the right to cal myself anything I want. It does not hinder the freedom of others. Heck , I'll call myself Jesus Christ if I want to.

Anonymous said...

"I am a libetarian. Are you trying to tell me what I can or can't do !

oops...you're not a libetarian ! look everyone ! He's trying to alter my behaviour , he can't be a libetarian !

(I could have pulled that cheap trick...exactly the same one you trying to pull , ages ago...I hope you see the silliness in your idea now)"

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You're quite the jester, aren't you? And you make no sense.

The Rooster said...

join the forum kiddo. It'll be a hoot.

Anonymous said...

"And as a libetarian , Ireserve the right to cal myself anything I want. It does not hinder the freedom of others. Heck , I'll call myself Jesus Christ if I want to."

Of course you would. You're that self righteous.

That's fine. Be a "libertarian". I'll just be myself.

Good luck in being a "libertarian". I hope it works out for you. Ha ha ha.

Anonymous said...

One last thing, big boy...

We might disagree on definitions and understandings of a concept, and that's fine. In fact, it's good because it shows we're not sheep, and that we can challenge what is considered "defined". It brings debate.

But maturity allows one to develop one's own identity. Attaching yourself to "libertarianism" or calling yourself a "libertarian" is evidence of an absence of personal identity.

Don't be a "libertarian" or "metalhead" or "skater" etc.

Just be yourself.

The Rooster said...

Look around you kid. You might want to save the "swim against the stream" speech for someone else.

Anonymous said...

Oh, look... the little hippie is trying to be all hardcore.

Ha ha ha.

And he's whoring his shitty forum.

You go, you libertarian! You tell 'em!

I wish I could be a libertarian like you.

The Rooster said...

I'm not sure exactly I get what your obsession with what I call myself is ? What do you care ? And don't claim you don't...you've spent close to 2 hours now going on adn on about it.

And why express surprise I'd call myself something , especially when you call me a hippie or a liberal or whatever other such silly labels you rednecks throw around like a blanket over the truth.

You are just making it worse for yourself. There's no sparing your dignity , so quit now for the sake of the potential dignity of your children.

Anonymous said...

You're right.

I shouldn't argue with you. You're a libertarian.

The Rooster said...

You're the one whose been going on and on and on and on about the liberianism. Do you realise the irony in bringing it up as if it's my obsession ? Now you've gone beyond time wasting to rambling innanity. Good luck. Look , I know you've been made to look a bit silly here today , but do you really have such a lack of life you need to save face to some random strangers ?

Anonymous said...

"You're the one whose been going on and on and on and on about the liberianism. Do you realise the irony in bringing it up as if it's my obsession ? Now you've gone beyond time wasting to rambling innanity. Good luck. Look , I know you've been made to look a bit silly here today , but do you really have such a lack of life you need to save face to some random strangers ?"


Um, how was I made to look silly? You're the one who's been made to look silly, by bending your spine around to try and pretend you're clever about definitions. Meanwhile, I've been consistent and have backed up everything I've said with facts and citations.

You, my friend, have done yourself no justice. So stop trying to spin everything around to make yourself look like the king. And stop accusing me of the very thing you're guilty of. That's childish.

Be a fucking man. Have some integrity.

The Rooster said...

I'm so sure I've totally pwned you in the debate (don't feel bad , i pwn everyone) that I'll leave you have the last word and let the readers decide.

Anonymous said...

Okay then.

For my sake, I hope they're not libertarians.

Anonymous said...

I should have realised that arguing with someone who uses the word "pwned", would have got me nowhere.

Ha ha ha. I'm a moron. The_Rooster wins.

The Rooster said...

Yup. See above post. Pwned. It's was your destiny.

Anonymous said...

Only mature adults use words like that. I am clearly immature and not worthy of debating with The_Rooster.

I accept defeat.

The Rooster said...

Big of you to admit it.